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bigskybound Participating Member Offline Posts: 15 Location: Clinton, Arkansas Joined: Nov 11^th, 2015	Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Jun 1^st, 2022 at 7:43am	Print Post
	I have recently acquired what would seem to be a special order (weren't they all?) Lone Star Rifle Company rolling block in .45-90. It has a heavy 34" barrel that is 1 1/16" across flats. Weighs north of 12 lbs. The rifle is as new and appears to have never been shot, other than proofing at Lone Star. I am assuming that it was intended to be a long-range silhouette rifle, given its specs. I am needing to put a value on this rifle. I can find no comparables. Standard rifles from Lone Star go from the mid $2Ks well into the $3Ks. Based on a Shiloh Sharps in a similar configuration (1874 Quigley), I am thinking $3500-$3800. Is that off the mark? Obviously, there will be no more made.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12066 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #1 - Jun 1^st, 2022 at 9:51am	Print Post
	Appears to be a hunting rifle. That will effect value since it has no target sights, a crescent butt and straight grip. Nice looking rifle.

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bigskybound Participating Member Offline Posts: 15 Location: Clinton, Arkansas Joined: Nov 11^th, 2015	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #2 - Jun 1^st, 2022 at 11:39am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jun 1^st, 2022 at 9:51am: Appears to be a hunting rifle. That will effect value since it has no target sights, a crescent butt and straight grip. Nice looking rifle. I dunno. Pretty heavy to tote around, even on a horse. And the Quigley Sharps has a crescent buttplate and straight grip.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12066 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #3 - Jun 1^st, 2022 at 12:18pm	Print Post
	Hunting rifles were heavy back then. Game was so plentiful they didn't have to carry a rifle very far. A horse wouldn't notice. The rifle you pictured is a hunting rifle. Install target sights on it and it will be a hunting rifle with target sights. Quigley Down Under was a movie. List it for 4500,00, Rich will be along to buy it.
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4570mike Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 445 Location: On the Peninsula Joined: Apr 11^th, 2013	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #4 - Jun 1^st, 2022 at 1:36pm	Print Post
	There’s a Lone Star Roller in 50-70 for sale on GB. Has a MVA scope on it. Looks to be somewhat similar to the OP’s photo. Opening bid amount is $4,899.00 (or something close to that). I suppose since they are no longer being made, the prices are increasing. I bought a LS Target Model with DST in 38-55 for less than $3K with MVA sights a few years ago. Seems at the time, they were trading for $2,500+/- depending on features. There’s also a Remington RB-97 Roller there for $2,400.00. Looks to be an early one. I always thought these were a good value, and not a repro Mike. Westerner: Still liked the Noodle Head guy better


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ISS Oldtimer Offline Posts: 570 Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #5 - Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 3:12am	Print Post
	My shooting buddy tells me "friends don't let friends buy Rollers....". Sharps rifles killed buffalo/bison by the millions. Lots more pictures of buffalo hunters carrying Sharps than Rollers. Besides, they do not have enough triggers, imho. I like the 2 oz +/- DST triggers on my Shilohs. Rollers are safe from me. Rich


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Redrighthand Full Member Offline Posts: 204 Location: New Liberty Iowa Joined: Jan 24^th, 2021	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #6 - Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 8:56am	Print Post
	I owned Lone Star #001 for a while. Somebody here owns it now, I don't recall who. It was an exceptional gun in 45-90.

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bigskybound Participating Member Offline Posts: 15 Location: Clinton, Arkansas Joined: Nov 11^th, 2015	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #7 - Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 1:05pm	Print Post
	Anyone know if the Lone Star records are available? Does Higginbotham's widow maintain them or did she transfer them to someone else to make available?


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bigskybound Participating Member Offline Posts: 15 Location: Clinton, Arkansas Joined: Nov 11^th, 2015	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #8 - Jun 4^th, 2022 at 9:43am	Print Post
	This rifle is for sale, incidentally. I just do not have the requisite number of posts here to list in classifieds. I have it on Gunbroker, but prefer to avoid their fees whenever possible.


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Ray_Newman Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 274 Location: Washington State Joined: Jul 13^th, 2004	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #9 - Jun 4^th, 2022 at 12:10pm	Print Post
	From what I have read on one or two other shooting sites, the tooling, parts, any records, etc., have been left dormant. From what I read, supposedly Dave’s widow put the shop, tools, etc., up for sale, but found no buyers as there was some type of religious connection in the terms of the sale. I was unsuccessful when I tried to get a replacement lower tang wood screw for the Lone Star I formerly owned. She said she had no idea where the parts were in the shop or what the parts were for. Really a shame that no one could buy Lone Star and restart production. Dave built a fine rifle and his workmanship was outstanding. From what Dave told me at a SHOT Show, he purposely kept production low to keep quality high.

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bigskybound Participating Member Offline Posts: 15 Location: Clinton, Arkansas Joined: Nov 11^th, 2015	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #10 - Jun 4^th, 2022 at 1:48pm	Print Post
	Ray_Newman wrote on Jun 4^th, 2022 at 12:10pm: FFrom what I read, supposedly Dave’s widow put the shop, tools, etc., up for sale, but found no buyers as there was some type of religious connection in the terms of the sale. I can respect people's religious beliefs, but that is just weird. And a crying shame .


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12066 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #11 - Jun 4^th, 2022 at 10:46pm	Print Post
	ISS wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2022 at 3:12am: My shooting buddy tells me "friends don't let friends buy Rollers....". Sharps rifles killed buffalo/bison by the millions. Lots more pictures of buffalo hunters carrying Sharps than Rollers. Besides, they do not have enough triggers, imho. I like the 2 oz +/- DST triggers on my Shilohs. Rollers are safe from me. Rich I own both, smithed on both and used both in competition. The Sharps sits in the safe. By 1876 only two members of the International team were using Sharps rifles, the rest were using rolling blocks.

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ISS Oldtimer Offline Posts: 570 Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #12 - Jun 4^th, 2022 at 11:29pm	Print Post
	The only reason, imho, that anybody shot rollers was that the rules were purposely designed to not allow DST's. The roller design looks as if it would be very difficult to fit them on a commercial basis. I can think of no other reason to not see them today. It is similar to the current notion why HD makes Sportsters; keeps women off Big Twins. Rich It's a joke people, lighten up!


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12066 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #13 - Jun 5^th, 2022 at 12:42am	Print Post
	"The only reason, imho, that anybody shot rollers was that the rules were purposely designed to not allow DST's." Those were in fact part of the rules. Factory made rolling blocks could be had with single set triggers. Some had double sets but they were all custom. I prefer the plain trigger in the rolling block to double sets in the Sharps for target shooting or shooting buffalo. My Sharps is a backup gun or loaner.
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RBKenn Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 306 Location: fallon Joined: Apr 8^th, 2011	Re: Lone Star Rifle Company .45-90 Rolling Block Reply #14 - Jul 10^th, 2022 at 9:58pm	Print Post
	When I purchased to back room from Lone Star I acquired the FFL records for that business. All of those serial numbers, calibers etc were listed here on another post (thread?)


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