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Re: Unertl problem
Reply #15 - May 17th, 2022 at 10:41am
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I had this problem on one of my rifles and I was able to loosen the block screws front and back and shift the front block opposite to the windage I needed and the rear block into the direction I needed to get zero windage. There is enough slop in some of the base blocks that you can get enough for center. 
With the blocks set at 7.2" it don't take much to move center adjustments.
I also have made adjustments by placing a shim in the dovetail on the rear mount but this would need the posa type rear mount.
  
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Reply #16 - May 17th, 2022 at 1:10pm
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It might be the thumb screw’s interface with the base is damaged. Some folks over tighten the screws causing an uneven face to the screw making the mount ride at a cant. Probably one of the reasons Unertl redesigned the mount to the Posa clamp style.
  
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Re: Unertl problem
Reply #17 - May 18th, 2022 at 5:09pm
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I'll try Arnie's solution but I believe this a orphan mount for some other purpose. The windage adjustment is defintely .180 short of being where it needs to be. I think my solution to stick the mount in my parts box and use another is the answer. Some day. I;ll find the answer.
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Re: Unertl problem
Reply #18 - May 18th, 2022 at 11:56pm
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Saratoga Bill wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 6:54pm:
If you compare the mount posted by nuclearcricket and mine, you can see what's wrong. I have to say the mount I have is not correct. A screw that is .180 longer would work but in liue of, I think I will retire the rear mount and find a new one. I have a one inch in my box of parts but don't think I have a 3/4. Some day, we'll solve the puzzle of this mount.
    One of my other Unertl's will zero fine on this gun so I'm good to go.


SB,

I've looked at all the photos several times.  I've had several Unertl and Fecker scopes (rings are essentially the same).  From the angle of your photo the rear ring looks fine.  I don's see any differences in your rings and the ones posted by nuclearcricket. 
What are you calling a boss?

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Re: Unertl problem
Reply #19 - May 19th, 2022 at 7:30am
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Not questioning the problem, but can’t see anything wrong with it from the photo. If we had photos equal to the ones Nuclear Cricket posted something may show up. However internet diagnostics are questionable at best.

I would still run a detailed and recorded test, extreme range in reading windage & elevation barrel = range of micrometer travel. Then measured extreme movement scopes tube knobs plunger backed off= range of possible tube movement. Compared to other Unertl measured range It will quickly tell you if the mount  is altered or defective in some way. Separately testing micrometer and tube movement will narrow possible problems. Elevation
and windage movement range should be the same too,another possible clue 

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Reply #20 - May 19th, 2022 at 8:21am
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May be you can use this to point out your problem. I presume that you are having trouble with the amount of travel in the windage adjustment.
  

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Re: Unertl problem
Reply #21 - May 19th, 2022 at 1:58pm
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JLouis wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 9:51am:
Could it possibly be that a base or both bases or not correctly drilled and tapped as being dead center to the barrel..


Amen to that.  I have a rifle barrel with those problems.  Very difficult to zero.  Too bad, as it is one of my go-to range rifles.
  
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Reply #22 - May 19th, 2022 at 4:07pm
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Kurt do you know the purpose of that aluminum pin in your drawing?

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Reply #23 - May 19th, 2022 at 5:04pm
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Chris,

That pin is to make sure the screw does not turn.  It makes it very difficult to replace a broken screw!

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Reply #24 - May 19th, 2022 at 7:53pm
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Thanks Jack!  That makes a lot of sense Smiley

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Re: Unertl problem
Reply #25 - May 22nd, 2022 at 9:17pm
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Try another photo. If you compare this pic to the one posted by nuclear cricket, you will note that the zero on my base sits considerably furthur out. The side of NCs mount is straight where mine has a raised boss between the verical rail of the sight and the zero liine. Amounts to about .180 which is how far to the right of center the scope sits when the mount is set at zero.
  The bases are correct, verified with another scope. The adjustments function correctly, just that the scope cannot move far enough left to get a zero
  
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Re: Unertl problem
Reply #26 - May 22nd, 2022 at 11:23pm
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Saratoga Bill,
I can again see the "bosses", now including a boss on the vertical as well. 
I again suggest you can "correct" your windage  and your elevation about 2 rotations as in 25 minutes towards the "center" by loosening the screw on the mount 
and pushing the knob assemblies in until the "zero" mark is about at the face or top of the bosses. 
A lot easier than disassembling the mount and machine off the bosses
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Re: Unertl problem
Reply #27 - May 22nd, 2022 at 11:28pm
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Here is my Unertl mount on a tube sight.  It is hard to tell from your photo, but the clearances inside seem much less on yours.  Almost like it is a 7/8" tube.  Got me puzzled.

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Reply #28 - May 25th, 2022 at 12:14am
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Behold the 1 1/4" Unertl Varmint scope.

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Re: Unertl problem
Reply #29 - May 25th, 2022 at 6:32pm
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Jack, you get the "Bingo" re the 7/8" tube scope tube in a 
"standard" Unertl mount. 
I will say  though that Saratoga Bill's mount has taller
Bosses, than your Varmint model. Especially on the windage 
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