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MVA globe sight animal inserts
May 1st, 2022 at 12:45pm
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All, I am looking for animal inserts for BPCR silhouettes. I need the MVA design. Appreciate any help. I have scrubbed the internet and so far no luck even including Lee Shaver website. Thanks
  
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Reply #1 - May 1st, 2022 at 7:29pm
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They may seem like a good idea but in reality don't live up to the expectations. I never had any but know some who had and they don't use them.
  
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Reply #2 - May 1st, 2022 at 9:46pm
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I think Jim Kluskens (Distant Thunder) made and offered them.  He’s retired and now spends his time shooting and reloading.

You might PM him on the Shiloh, Cast Boolits or Historical Shooting forums and ask if he has any left.  But it’s my impression that he pulled the pin when he retired and closed the business.
  
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Reply #3 - May 1st, 2022 at 11:36pm
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I will do so. Thank you for the information.
  
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Reply #4 - May 2nd, 2022 at 6:30am
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they sound good but don't work for most people   art
  
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Reply #5 - May 2nd, 2022 at 10:40am
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I have heard from others that have also been disappointed with the use of these.  I have just recently started using my iron sights and am trying different ideas to see if they help my scores.  Thanks
  
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Reply #6 - May 8th, 2022 at 10:40am
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Have tried about every possible way to improve my front sight focus. Even fiber optics that are legal in Lever action silhouette. Not a good solution for me. 

Consensus our clubs 3 dozen + active iron sight single shot shooters falls into two camps. Arpeture front, larger the better. Arp probably the best for bullseye targets were clear focus front essential fuzzy bulls eye as good as sharp edged bulls eye. Silhouette targets easier to see with arpeture not as precise strikes.

Silhouette a different problem than bullseye, no defined aiming point 4 different animals. Picking your spot on the target essential, shoot at the whole critter is like rolling dice. Good eyesight narrow post and small bead best for most shooters. Were the post and bead will go wrong is fuzzy focus on the font. Causes you to hold with what you can see and ignore the true sights top bead causing high misses. It can be corrected by closing down the rear arpeture sharpening up the front focus. Problematic low light days = small hole rear reduces visibility on the target & loose the ability to pick the spot.

Wide post front no bead easier to focus, however wide front will make left to right strike picking  definition more difficult. Not so bad Rams or Pigs, both wide targets, will cause windage misses on Turkeys & Chickens. More so on Turkeys were shaping the shot toward bulk of the Body critical . Holding a bit off for wind more difficult with wide post too.

What works for me is thin post & small bead being very aware when sharp top of the post focus is lost & breaking shots lower when the sights not clear.

Having said all that everybody’s eye is different & experimenting essential.

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Reply #7 - May 8th, 2022 at 11:36am
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Adding trick that works very well many shooters. Older eye won’t hold focus long. Trick is look at the target head off the stock focus on were you want the bullet to strike. Head back on soon as you see the spot break the shot. Longer you look worse the definition. I break shots in 2-3 seconds. 

Don’t see acceptable sight picture head off the stock relax the eye, back to look at the spot on target. Head on stock see the picture pull the trigger. I may do it as many as 3 times. Two times frequently, one things sure pull the trigger less than acceptable sight picture will cause a poor shot.

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Reply #8 - May 9th, 2022 at 3:47pm
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I have a set for Lyman sights that I would sell.  $25

  
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Reply #9 - May 9th, 2022 at 10:31pm
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Boats; thank you for the advice. I will try some of your ideas this weekend.  Appreciate it.
  
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Reply #10 - May 10th, 2022 at 2:41am
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boats wrote on May 8th, 2022 at 10:40am:
Have tried about every possible way to improve my front sight focus. Even fiber optics that are legal in Lever action silhouette. Not a good solution for me. 

Consensus our clubs 3 dozen + active iron sight single shot shooters falls into two camps. Arpeture front, larger the better. Arp probably the best for bullseye targets were clear focus front essential fuzzy bulls eye as good as sharp edged bulls eye. Silhouette targets easier to see with arpeture not as precise strikes.

Silhouette a different problem than bullseye, no defined aiming point 4 different animals. Picking your spot on the target essential, shoot at the whole critter is like rolling dice. Good eyesight narrow post and small bead best for most shooters. Were the post and bead will go wrong is fuzzy focus on the font. Causes you to hold with what you can see and ignore the true sights top bead causing high misses. It can be corrected by closing down the rear arpeture sharpening up the front focus. Problematic low light days = small hole rear reduces visibility on the target & loose the ability to pick the spot.

Wide post front no bead easier to focus, however wide front will make left to right strike picking  definition more difficult. Not so bad Rams or Pigs, both wide targets, will cause windage misses on Turkeys & Chickens. More so on Turkeys were shaping the shot toward bulk of the Body critical . Holding a bit off for wind more difficult with wide post too.

What works for me is thin post & small bead being very aware when sharp top of the post focus is lost & breaking shots lower when the sights not clear.

Having said all that everybody’s eye is different & experimenting essential.

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FWIW - I just picked up the rifle version of an Eyepal peep sighting system (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) to try and deal with my "fuzzy" vision.  I haven't had a chance to try them at the range but the concept seems sound and the price isn't too bad.

Might be worth a try.

-Ron
  
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Re: MVA globe sight animal inserts
Reply #11 - May 10th, 2022 at 5:56am
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Small magnifier on your glasses or the international rifle shooters full shooters glasses will give very good front sight focus. I used Champions’s choice glasses when I shot Smallbore prone & 10M Airgun offhand. A few of our club shooters use them in our 200 yard offhand SShot matches. Still have them & may go back if my scores drop.   

Problem for me with the front sight glass focus is it blurs the target. Function of my eyesight, some can get sharp front focus & still obtain acceptable target focus. Another issue is having spent many years in NRA rifle silhouette appreciate the  ability to pick the spot with a powerful scope’s dot & want to do the same with iron sights. Not easy with aging eyes limited depth of field focus..

Unfortunately only solution is try different things & settle on what works for you. Stick on inexpensive way to try.

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Re: MVA globe sight animal inserts
Reply #12 - May 20th, 2022 at 1:49pm
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art_ruggiero wrote on May 2nd, 2022 at 6:30am:
they sound good but don't work for most people   art


Sounds stupid to me.
  

If your rifle is not in 7.62 and you can't hit what you are aiming at with de-linked machinegun ammo you are a pretender.
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