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Apr 2nd, 2022 at 12:31am
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A couple months ago I decided to take some of the money I got in my Mother's estate settlement and buy a couple nice Schuetzen rifles.

Last weekend was the Baltimore show.  A good friend called me the next day to tell me about this mint Axel Peterson/Schoyen rifle on a Ballard action that Gary Quinlan had for sale there.  Said to call Gary and hung up on me.  Not being a complete idiot, I called Gary.  Yes, I bought the rifle, since this friend told me if he did not already have two it would have gone home with him.

It arrived at my door step about 2pm.  It looks 99% new.  Got that funky three lever trigger guard add-on they used.  I think it weighs about 15 pounds.  Barrel is full octagon, and 30" long, and mikes 1.175"+/- at the muzzle.  It does balance nice, especially for the weight.  Came with sights, and really nice wood.  Oh, yeah, .33-47.  Now to measure the twist and get a proper mold made.  Thank goodness! for the dimensional drawings in Volume II of Tom Rowe's books on the Hartford Popes.

I have about enough money left to search for a nice Stevens-Pope factory rifle.  Then I can spend my remaining days making bullets and load testing.

Rich

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Reply #1 - Apr 2nd, 2022 at 6:24am
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Pictures? Pictures? Any pictures?

Congratulations for sure!

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Reply #2 - Apr 2nd, 2022 at 8:40am
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To become interim caretaker of a rifle of that quality is a rare privilege. Congrats!

I can envision Axel, Harry and George pausing their heated card game long enough for Axel to glance down and comment “Well, let’s see if this guy is worth his powder. The last 3 owners never shot it, what a shame”.
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 2nd, 2022 at 9:57am
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Rich please start sharing some pictures of these rifles that you have been purchasing and talking about. 
It really is not at all that difficult to be able to let them speak for themselves as words alone cannot do them the justice that you speak.of. 

It has been said that Schoyen's barrels up to 32 are 7 groove and those beyond are 9 groove. Is your 33-47 a 7 or a 9 groove and which of the two actually rifled the barrel to your knowledge.
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Reply #4 - Apr 2nd, 2022 at 10:08pm
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I am still trying to post.

The rifle is stamped Axel Peterson, Denver Colo on the top flat.  I am assuming the stock work is by Schoyen.  It does have that funky three finger spur screwed onto the triggerguard.
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 2nd, 2022 at 11:13pm
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If you have the auction catalog from John Ambers auction it’s pictured in there
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 2nd, 2022 at 11:17pm
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Schoyen did little stockwork. He used a local stockmaker that did very fine work. Without looking, I believe his name was Simmons. It is unlikely that Schoyen had much to do with the rifle, unless it was a Schoyen rifle to begin with, and Peterson fit one of his barrels to it. If you have John Dutcher's fine book on Ballard Rifles, he devotes extensive space for information on both Schoyen and Peterson. If you don't have the book, you should try to find a copy. It is a lifes work, and well worth it. This is a good example of the need for good photographs.
  

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Reply #7 - Apr 2nd, 2022 at 11:24pm
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s.s.jeff   If you could post the catalog description of the rifle, it would be of some help. A photograph better. I have or had the Amber catalog, but would be a monumental task to locate it, and it quite possibly was lost in the number of moves in the time lapse.
  

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Reply #8 - Apr 3rd, 2022 at 12:06am
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Schoyen did little stockwork. He used a local stockmaker that did very fine work. Without looking, I believe his name was Simmons.

Henry Simmons was the stock maker employed by Schoyen/Peterson.
  

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Reply #9 - Apr 3rd, 2022 at 4:48pm
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Thank you for the information on the rifle.

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Reply #10 - Apr 4th, 2022 at 11:28pm
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Rich    I am curious what the stamp on your barrel looks like. Most Peterson's I have seen are marked A. W. Peterson Denver Colorado, as opposed to Axel Peterson.  He may have changed stamps when he took over the shop from Schoyen. I will check with John Dutcher when I get the chance, and see what he knows. I am sure he has the right answer. Just interested to know, and possibly be able to help dating a rifle, or at least a barrel. He made them over such a very long time.
  

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Reply #11 - Jul 6th, 2022 at 7:39pm
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I’m happy you got that rifle! I’d like to see a picture.
  
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