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SBoomer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Who made these? Mar 18^th, 2022 at 12:37pm	Print Post
	Who made these cappers? The nickeled on looks very old and period. The decapping stem is very nicely stamped 32 40 and the primer is small rifle. The walnut handles look to be a little newer and maybe added later? The nickeled one is smooth as silk in operation. With the replaceable shellholder, the blued one is obviously newer but very nicely made and finished.


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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 663 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: Who made these? Reply #1 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 1:50pm	Print Post
	The re- & de-capper on the right is almost certainly by Jake Simmons but the wood handles were added. Most of the examples I've seen have primer pocket scrapers in the ends.


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SBoomer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Re: Who made these? Reply #2 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 2:52pm	Print Post
	Thanx Joe! What era were the Simmons tools made?


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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1301 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: Who made these? Reply #3 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 4:13pm	Print Post
	The tool on the right looks to me like a Stevens-Pope re-decapper. But then I'm not an expert on them. The head is sculpted like the Stevens tools. I've ever seen a Simmons tool with the head shaped like that. The caliber stamp on the ejector rod is also located where I have seen it on other Stevens-Pope re-decappers.

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SBoomer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Re: Who made these? Reply #4 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 4:19pm	Print Post
	I ask because the patina of the flaking nickel looks turn of century to me, much like my Stevens Tip-Ups. I really doubt its a more modern reproduction which makes me feel better. Not that some of the more modern tools aren’t works of art as well. These came in an EBay lot that looked like someone emptied a reloading junk drawer. The seller knew better, too!


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SBoomer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Re: Who made these? Reply #5 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 4:23pm	Print Post
	Pics


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Who made these? Reply #6 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 4:46pm	Print Post
	I agree with Randy Wright I have yet to seen a Simmons Head that has looked just like that one being shown.

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SBoomer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Re: Who made these? Reply #7 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 5:22pm	Print Post
	This old Bond Model C is what originally caught my eye in that EBay lot. I always wanted to have one set up next to my Ideal No.5 powder measure to bell the case for breechseating. I know there are easier ways to do it, but I just like the old-timey look to the set-up and it will be fun making a period looking die. This has to be VERY early in Bonds production. The main body is cast brass with a black Japanned finish and the “PAT APPLD FOR” on the lever is hand stamped with individual stamps.


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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1964 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Who made these? Reply #8 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 5:30pm	Print Post
	Pope


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12373 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Who made these? Reply #9 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 5:42pm	Print Post
	SBoomer wrote on Mar 18^th, 2022 at 5:22pm: This old Bond Model C is what originally caught my eye in that EBay lot. I always wanted to have one set up next to my Ideal No.5 powder measure to bell the case for breechseating. I know there are easier ways to do it, but I just like the old-timey look to the set-up and it will be fun making a period looking die. This has to be VERY early in Bonds production. The main body is cast brass with a black Japanned finish and the “PAT APPLD FOR” on the lever is hand stamped with individual stamps. What does it do?

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SBoomer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Re: Who made these? Reply #10 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 6:20pm	Print Post
	It is a Modern Bond reloading press. Without a doubt the slowest and most awkward press ever made. I just think its cool. For a single press operation, like flaring or neck sizing, it will work just fine.


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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 277 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Who made these? Reply #11 - Mar 18^th, 2022 at 10:44pm	Print Post
	Certainly looks like a pope with those caliber markings and the ole nickel. The one Stevens I own is marked as such.


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SBoomer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Re: Who made these? Reply #12 - Mar 19^th, 2022 at 9:40am	Print Post
	I really appreciate all the input and pics! Any thoughts on who might have made the blued one with modern shellholder?


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1404 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Who made these? Reply #13 - Mar 19^th, 2022 at 2:26pm	Print Post
	The blued one's handles seem awkwardly angled; does it handle as nicely as the Stevens-Pope? Bill Lawrence


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SBoomer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Michigan's Frozen North (U.P.) Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010	Re: Who made these? Reply #14 - Mar 19^th, 2022 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	Good observation, it handles a lot like the small Fiskar’s hedge trimmers…… My hand isn't big enough to one-hand it. With two hands it works fine. The Stevens-Pope is smooth but my CPA’s are smoother.


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