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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Mar 1^st, 2022 at 10:22am	Print Post
	These are the markings under the barrel from what I submise from the early barrel number was there a chance that Pope may have had a bit more involvement making this barrel(???) and what the heck do his marks mean? nowhere on the barrel is the caliber marked. It is a 32-40 for sure I shot it a bit last night.


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29aholic Junior Member Offline Posts: 90 Location: West Central Missouri Joined: Nov 10^th, 2014	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #1 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 11:54am	Print Post
	Well how did it shoot?

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #2 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	29aholic wrote on Mar 1^st, 2022 at 11:54am: Well how did it shoot? I just picked it up yesterday at 4 pm.I had my breech seat kit and fired 15 shots just before dark at 50 yards to make sure it went "bang" Just about an inch was all.but im not blaming the gun.i cast 50 Hudson bullets last night and I'll give it a go in the daytime this week.
	« Last Edit: Mar 1^st, 2022 at 1:08pm by Cbashooter »

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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Online Tom Trevor Posts: 712 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #3 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 2:21pm	Print Post
	21 over 1.41 seems to be Pope code for the 32-40 rifling and It is said if Pope personally worked on the barrel himself at Stevens a P was added by the barrel number


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #4 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	So this was probably not done by Pope but by Ross.

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #5 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 2:26pm	Print Post
	Thanks Tom.i heard about the "P" as well but have had conflicting info on it.id feel better if it had a "P" though😀 I used to shoot with Harry Pope III.Maybe I'll borrow his P stamp 🤪


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #6 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 2:31pm	Print Post
	Well hopefully he touched my barrel based on Smiths book!


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #7 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 2:41pm	Print Post
	They also kept making them under Pope's name after he had already left Steven's unfortunately. Hopefully yours is not one of those. Is it a left hand gain twist or is it a straight twist.

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kootne Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 477 Location: Libby, Mt. Joined: Mar 6^th, 2012	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #8 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 5:38pm	Print Post
	I have one made very close to yours, .32/40 21/1.41 #532. Maybe they were in the rack together.

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TRowe Full Member Offline Posts: 197 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2017	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #9 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	The numbers are the settings for Pope's rifling machine and it no way indicate twist. Pope barrel numbers while he was in Hartford ended about barrel number 400 when he went to Stevens in 1901. The last barrel number he made at Stevens was 1237. Pope's job at Stevens was to oversee the Stevens Pope department. He was a supervisor and not a bench hand. Barrels he made at Stevens were marked with a P but there were a lot made while he was there that he supervised. Most SP barrels are not marked with a P. This rifle was from a collection in California, then Las Vegas.


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s.s.jeff Junior Member Offline Posts: 73 Location: Appleton Joined: Aug 13^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #10 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 6:03pm	Print Post
	Kootne, I bet your barrel is missing it’s false muzzle, isn’t it?


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #11 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 6:46pm	Print Post
	TRowe- Why does Smith in his book say numbers under 1200 Pope rifled them? I've heard otherwise that agrees with you.i can't remember the source though
	« Last Edit: Mar 1^st, 2022 at 7:00pm by Cbashooter »

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kootne Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 477 Location: Libby, Mt. Joined: Mar 6^th, 2012	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #12 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 7:00pm	Print Post
	s.s.jeff wrote on Mar 1^st, 2022 at 6:03pm: Kootne, I bet your barrel is missing it’s false muzzle, isn’t it? Yes it is missing, do you me asking if you have it? Mine came with another one that is bored/reamed smooth with another, lower serial number. It lines up but without rifling. I know where the "donor" rifle is rumored to be, evidently it has had the barrel shortened at the muzzle. Small world.

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s.s.jeff Junior Member Offline Posts: 73 Location: Appleton Joined: Aug 13^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #13 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 7:29pm	Print Post
	False muzzle & starter for #532


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Stevens Pope I just picked up here. Reply #14 - Mar 1^st, 2022 at 7:33pm	Print Post
	The chances of those finding each other is crazy...


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