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Soule midrange sight setting.
Feb 24th, 2022 at 2:54pm
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I have a Shiloh Sharps 45-70 with a new Soule midrange tang sight.  I would like to start my sight setting on at least a 4' X 4'
paper, and not have to chase and guess where my first shots are hitting at 50 yds.
Can anyone give me a close setting on the vertical adjustment on the sight to get me started when the snow goes and I can get to the range to start my initial settings?
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Reply #1 - Feb 24th, 2022 at 3:14pm
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The easiest way to get started is to set the rifle on sandbags, or a sandbag + front rest so it's very steady.  Drop the breech block.  At 50 yards if the bull is centered in the sights, and if when looking through the bore at the target, the bull is reasonably well centered then you'll hit close to center.   Then you just need an idea of your come ups for various distances which are pretty easy to calculate.

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Reply #2 - Feb 24th, 2022 at 3:15pm
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Or, set your rifle up in a rest and sight through the barrel and center the target. Then, without moving your rifle, adjust your tang sight to the same target. Then, double check both are on the target and you won't be far off when you shoot.
Chris types faster;-) But I would start with the barrel and then move the sight to match.
  
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Re: Soule midrange sight setting.
Reply #3 - Feb 24th, 2022 at 3:44pm
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I have my shop in the backyard, and so I've got a black dot at about 50 feet that I can set my rifle in a vise and center down the barrel. So, I bore sight it before I go out to the range which saves much time and fussing. Another thing is that if you're sighting-in a barrel with a right-hand twist, the shot will usually go low right, left-hand low left.
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Reply #4 - Feb 24th, 2022 at 6:26pm
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Found the book for my Sharps, I have a parts unknown '78 style sight on it. it is a souel sight. I dont have a 100 yd setting but for 200 its at .270", 300 is .460", 385 is .570" and 500.780". Those will give you some kind of a ball park to play in. I was shooting about 68gr of CTG Goex, and a 535 postel bullet. That bullet has constantly shot well for me. 
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Reply #5 - Feb 24th, 2022 at 7:50pm
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I once saved the guy on the bench next to me a lot of money.  He had a shiny new rifle in .338 Laupa.  He was spending about $8 a shot on match ammo ( Canadian dollars Smiley ). He shot through a whole box of ammo without hitting the paper.  I told him about the remove the bolt and look through the bore trick and he was on paper the first shot after that.  Too bad about all that money he'd spent before that Smiley.

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Reply #6 - Feb 24th, 2022 at 9:16pm
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Oldbee, lots of folks get all in an uproar over finding a reasonable zero with a new or untried rifle. I used to. But after many years of shooting I doscovered the real procedure. You get a Repair Center target froma High power shooter. Most clubs have them. They are 22" X 20" square (I think) You post them at 25 yards. Now at this distance you almost just cannot miss it. Once you get a shot on you can make adjustments and walk your way into center, then crank the rear sight up so it is shooting 3" High at 25 yds and go from there, or less for 100 yds. Now you are on the paper. Lot of guy's spend a lot of time and ammo trying to conserve what? the more you shoot the better you will get with experience. Just keep working at it and enjoy. HTH Regards FITZ OLD TUCK.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 24th, 2022 at 9:27pm
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OLD TUCK wrote on Feb 24th, 2022 at 9:16pm:
Oldbee, lots of folks get all in an uproar over finding a reasonable zero with a new or untried rifle. I used to. But after many years of shooting I doscovered the real procedure. You get a Repair Center target froma High power shooter. Most clubs have them. They are 22" X 20" square (I think) You post them at 25 yards. Now at this distance you almost just cannot miss it. Once you get a shot on you can make adjustments and walk your way into center, then crank the rear sight up so it is shooting 3" High at 25 yds and go from there, or less for 100 yds. Now you are on the paper. Lot of guy's spend a lot of time and ammo trying to conserve what? the more you shoot the better you will get with experience. Just keep working at it and enjoy. HTH Regards FITZ OLD TUCK.

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Reply #8 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 12:31am
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Getting a 50 yard setting is likely going to be pretty hard with that sight.
But the quickest way to get close will be set the rifle on a bench in good bags or rest of some kind. Get the front sight centered as well as you can on the target, then drop the rear aperture until you can make out the front sight and the target at the lowest point on the slide.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 10:35am
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OLD TUCK wrote on Feb 24th, 2022 at 9:16pm:
Oldbee, lots of folks get all in an uproar over finding a reasonable zero with a new or untried rifle. I used to. But after many years of shooting I doscovered the real procedure. You get a Repair Center target froma High power shooter. Most clubs have them. They are 22" X 20" square (I think) You post them at 25 yards. Now at this distance you almost just cannot miss it. Once you get a shot on you can make adjustments and walk your way into center, then crank the rear sight up so it is shooting 3" High at 25 yds and go from there, or less for 100 yds. Now you are on the paper. Lot of guy's spend a lot of time and ammo trying to conserve what? the more you shoot the better you will get with experience. Just keep working at it and enjoy. HTH Regards FITZ OLD TUCK.


Fitz I do that technique often too.  And if I know the velocity of the load and am close to center on the 25 yard target I can get the next shot on paper at 200 without fiddling with in between targets.

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Reply #10 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 1:59pm
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Well, I might as well confuse the OP with another method for sighting in a rifle. Wink  Get a large sheet of paper or cardboard and put a big cross on it. Use a magic marker so that you can see the cross OK.  Than set the target up 12 and a half yards from the muzzle of your rifle. You can't miss at that distance. Make sure your Soule is set on zero and your eyecup quite low, maybe around 20 minutes. Take a shot right at the center of the cross. Each 1/8" from the center of the cross is one minute. You can use that method to drift your front sight right or left until you're right on center with the cross you can adjust your elevation up and down until you're right on the cross. Shouldn't take more than a few shots.
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Re: Soule midrange sight setting.
Reply #11 - Feb 25th, 2022 at 6:27pm
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I would like to thank all of you for replying to my request for help.
You have given me many options to try.  Most I can try now in the house pointing the Sharps out the window and focusing on something in the tree line.   
I thought we were on our way to an early spring, but with the 6" of snow we got today and now 40 mile an hour winds, it will be a while!
  

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