RayH,can't you see your shots at 200yds with a good powerful spotting scope? 
Lee Gibbs Pres.ASSRA

I think one also has to take into account those folks like myself who now also have partial permanent eye sight loss. Is being able to clearly see the targets themselves well enough to precisely see and to hold on a specific point at 200 yards.

JLouis wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2022 at 11:47am:

The original question was concerning being able to see bullet impacts on target. What I posted certainly helps that issue.

Being able to see the target is a different problem all together.   CHanging from 200 to 100 yards and scaling the target down really does not help much. 

Simply shooting the iron sight target with a scope would one possibility. Changing the size of the bullseye to include the 24 or 23 rings could also help. Those would be very cost efficient.

What might also help would be to offer or allow more colors. Different eyes pick up different colors differently. 

For me the difference between colors and print material makes a huge difference. The Wyoming Schuetzen target is much easier on my eyes than the ASSRA targets.

The biggest problems with all of this, is a certain number of participants who will whine about someone “having an unfair advantage” because they are using a target they can actually see, and that is clearly the reason whiner was kept out of the high dollar pay out at the end of the match.

The bottom line is that people need to decide if they want to preserve the sport and find a way to do that. Or if it more important to preserve some pretty fragile egos.

Worst comes to worse, maybe the senile class of shooters could be allowed to shoot the splatter type targets, maybe some tannerite behind the 25 ring so they know for sure when they hit it.

oneatatime wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2022 at 12:39pm:


WSU targets have anemic red?  They look dark red to me where as ASSRA targets look light orange to me. I've been shooting black ASSRA targets lately.
Red WSU targets are better for iron sights. Yes they can glare.  

I thought ASSRA held CF 100 yard matches already?   

Bitteroot Scheutzen Society holds one every summer at Hamilton MT. Only one ten shot BR match. Werner Wolf is the only shooter to have scored a 250 at 100 with a CF.

I have the same problem, Joe. One year at Poulsbo they hung bright orange targets in front of pine trees. When I told the schuetzenmeister I couldn't see the targets he said so what, shoot them anyway! Took him a while to realize I could not see them at all.

Joe's right, the black side of the ASSRA target is definitely easier to sight on with iron sights but the orange side is easier to spot the holes. With a scope it's just look for the white hole in the middle of whatever color, orange, red, gray, or black, is around it. I remember somewhere in our travels that they had hung the traffic lights with the red on the bottom and the green on the top. That might give you trouble, Joe. Is there a general rule for ones mounted horizontally?

Joe, the ones you drive through, not shoot through;-)