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KWK Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 414 Location: USA Joined: Jul 12^th, 2004	1885 single set trigger Feb 12^th, 2022 at 1:29am	Print Post
	Two questions about it: 1) What's a typical pull weight when set? 2) Why did de Haas deem it "not too reliable?"
	« Last Edit: Feb 12^th, 2022 at 11:42am by KWK »
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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: 1885 single set trigger Reply #1 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 8:31am	Print Post
	I recently shot a match with a Low Wall with an SST that had been tuned by Mike Bassett (a gunsmith in OK). It was as good as any DST trigger I've ever shot. Zero creep, broke like glass & set at about 8oz. In the 60+ shots I fired there were zero problems. So, when done well, I'll say that de Haas missed on this one. If I ever get another 1885 with an SST I will definitely be asking Mike to tune the trigger.

	Glenn - Stevens 044 1/2, Bartlein SS 5R barrel in 22LR
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Ranch13 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 636 Location: East Central Wy. Joined: Jan 20^th, 2018	Re: 1885 single set trigger Reply #2 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 9:21am	Print Post
	It largely depends on who installed and fitted the single set as to the pull weight and dependability. I have one that the set weight is almost to light, but unset is just about a beautiful of trigger pull as you could hope for, and I have one that changes daily from set is still around 6 lbs, to unset can be just right at a nice clean crisp 3 lbs. It's what most of the smiths that have tried to cure the thing calls one of those problem childs.. Apparently it can be affected a lot by the inletting of the top tang into the stock and the tension on the rear tang bolt..


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JKR Full Member Offline Posts: 152 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2021	Re: 1885 single set trigger Reply #3 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 1:07pm	Print Post
	I wonder if Winchester used the same single set trigger in the single shot as in their lever guns. Given the mechanical differences of the actions, I’ll bet they were very similar. My high wall has the standard trigger but my 73 has the single set trigger. It breaks as clean as you could hope for , right at eight ounces. The rifle was built in 1880 and the trigger still works as it should. I think you could say it’s reliable! JKR


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Hanging Judge Participating Member Offline Posts: 13 Location: New Philadelphia Joined: Jun 25^th, 2015	Re: 1885 single set trigger Reply #4 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 3:25pm	Print Post
	On my Uberti 1885 32-20 My set triggers are set so light that you can hardly touch or feel the trigger with out it going off. I know that is a bit light but works great for my off hand shooting in silhouette .


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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4164 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: 1885 single set trigger Reply #5 - Feb 18^th, 2022 at 7:53pm	Print Post
	I own two 'walls with SSTs, a 32-40 high wall plains porter with an original, factory SST, and my "special sporter" built on a 3rd Model (low wall) Musket has one put together from parts. The former is dependable as a freight train, but the latter demands constant tinkering. I'm sure the low wall trigger from parts could be tuned to be more dependable I just can't seem to get a round tuit. Froggie


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: 1885 single set trigger Reply #6 - Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:44am	Print Post
	Green_Frog wrote on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 7:53pm: I own two 'walls with SSTs, a 32-40 high wall plains porter with an original, factory SST, and my "special sporter" built on a 3rd Model (low wall) Musket has one put together from parts. The former is dependable as a freight train, but the latter demands constant tinkering. I'm sure the low wall trigger from parts could be tuned to be more dependable I just can't seem to get a round tuit. Froggie Wonder if your 'bad' trigger might need a couple parts rehardened.

	Glenn - Stevens 044 1/2, Bartlein SS 5R barrel in 22LR
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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12331 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 1885 single set trigger Reply #7 - Feb 20^th, 2022 at 5:09pm	Print Post
	I've had several in the past and own two now. Every one worked perfect. Once loaned a rifle to Chuck Bordman. He could not get the hammer to fall on the rifle. So I sat down with him and he demonstrated how it wouldn't go off. He was correct, Chuck set the trigger several times and every time he tried it simply clicked to half cock. It never failed to fire when I used it.
	« Last Edit: Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:43pm by westerner »
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ISS Oldtimer Offline Posts: 570 Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: 1885 single set trigger Reply #8 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 12:32am	Print Post
	Speaking of Chuck, I wonder whoever ended up with that barge of a 1967(?) Caddy... He was a pretty good shot.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12331 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 1885 single set trigger Reply #9 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 12:44am	Print Post
	Think it was a 1965. In order to maximize the price, he repainted the car, then joined a Lasalle Cadillac club. Took the Caddy to events for exposure. Took a while but he finally realized his goal. It was his wifes car. Chuck was hard to beat. He had a very delicate touch on the trigger.
	« Last Edit: Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:01am by westerner »
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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4164 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: 1885 single set trigger Reply #10 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 3:58pm	Print Post
	SSShooter wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:44am: Green_Frog wrote on Feb 18^th, 2022 at 7:53pm: I own two 'walls with SSTs, a 32-40 high wall plains porter with an original, factory SST, and my "special sporter" built on a 3rd Model (low wall) Musket has one put together from parts. The former is dependable as a freight train, but the latter demands constant tinkering. I'm sure the low wall trigger from parts could be tuned to be more dependable I just can't seem to get a round tuit. Froggie Wonder if your 'bad' trigger might need a couple parts rehardened. I think the tiny setting screw in the bottom of the trigger is a bit undersized for the hole. If I weren’t so lazy or if I were shooting it enough to bother me, I’d either replace it or put some sort of soft thread locker on it. I’m old and trifling, so whoever gets it after I’m gone will have to deal with it! Froggie 🐸


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