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TRowe Full Member Offline Posts: 173 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2017	Elephants Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:01pm	Print Post
	There are two White Elephant Ballards know. They have identical engraving. In a description of Zetters rifle gallery in Shooting & Fishing one is mentioned. What the original idea was for these rifles is unknown, but they sure are interesting.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11420 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Elephants Reply #1 - Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:33pm	Print Post
	I con't see! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

	A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
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TRowe Full Member Offline Posts: 173 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2017	Re: Elephants Reply #2 - Jan 31^st, 2022 at 4:40pm	Print Post
	Somedays! Hard to see when some dummy forgets to attach it!!


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2028 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Elephants Reply #3 - Jan 31^st, 2022 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	Tom, You have me drooling out of both corners of my mouth, what calibers? Any more details? Greg

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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Crown-C Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 487 Location: St. Marys Kansas Joined: Apr 6^th, 2009	Re: Elephants Reply #4 - Jan 31^st, 2022 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	That certainly is a beautiful rifle! I can’t even imagine all the gorgeous rifles Tom has seen and photographed over the years! Every time he posts one of these masterpieces I have to bring out one of his coffee table books and look at them again. Never get tired of it!
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	Richard Crown-C Ranch in the Flinthills NRA Life Member ASSRA Member # 10366 Member & Founders Society, Cody Firearms Museum Veteran
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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1905 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Elephants Reply #5 - Jan 31^st, 2022 at 7:50pm	Print Post
	A really fine rifle, and the Elephant engraving appears to be an Indian Elephant if that might mean something.

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ssrifles Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 271 Joined: Mar 23^rd, 2009	Re: Elephants Reply #6 - Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:22pm	Print Post
	several years ago one of these actions came up for sale and i was really interested in it. i called john dutcher about any history or info on it.i am doing this from memory and mine is not what his is. there were 3 of these guns made and there was a club that commisioned the engraving.it was just the reciever and it sold for around 3 grand ,needless to say i didn't get it. never have heard or seen anything of it since. tony<><


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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 507 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Elephants Reply #7 - Jan 31^st, 2022 at 9:59pm	Print Post
	look in Hartford Pope books #330 ?


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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1844 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Elephants Reply #8 - Jan 31^st, 2022 at 11:15pm	Print Post
	What were the chambering and is the other side engraved the same? Very nice rifle


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TRowe Full Member Offline Posts: 173 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2017	Re: Elephants Reply #9 - Feb 1^st, 2022 at 10:44am	Print Post
	The rifle is a .22 RF and has been made up by Zischang with his wood and butt plate. Both sides the same. The one that was the action only has had a Pope barrel fitted to it and is shown in the Hartford books. I photographed in Ron Peterson's collection. Ron had it restored.


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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 797 Location: Annapolis, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: Elephants Reply #10 - Feb 1^st, 2022 at 11:24am	Print Post
	The stuff dreams are made of.


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1905 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Elephants Reply #11 - Feb 1^st, 2022 at 3:08pm	Print Post
	Dreams are a product of the mind, very often brought to fruition by the effort involved to amass the necessary capital.

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 689 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Elephants Reply #12 - Feb 1^st, 2022 at 5:21pm	Print Post
	and access to someone capable of and willing to do the work.


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1905 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Elephants Reply #13 - Feb 1^st, 2022 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	I too have to say, that I am somewhat surprised that the buttstock and forend wood don't appear to match, unlike Zischang's work. It could also be lighting from the photograph? In spite of that, I could probably find room for it!!!

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1905 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Elephants Reply #14 - Feb 1^st, 2022 at 5:43pm	Print Post
	In this case, the access and capability have been achieved, and now the capital comes into play.

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