Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2  Send TopicPrint
Hot Topic (More than 10 Replies) Reliving the Hoppes debate (Read 3832 times)
oughtsix
Global Moderator
ASSRA Board Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 1364
Location: Columbus
Joined: May 31st, 2009
Reliving the Hoppes debate
Jan 23rd, 2022 at 10:18am
Print Post  
Found an old Hoppes box. I don’t know if the ingredients are currently printed, but they once were.  At least now we can make our own
  

Life Member ASSRA, OGCA &  TSGC
I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters........ Frank Lloyd Wright
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
MrTipUp
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


Quality is to a product
what character is to
a man

Posts: 1404
Location: Indiana
Joined: Feb 19th, 2020
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #1 - Jan 23rd, 2022 at 10:42am
Print Post  
While it would be nice to have the proportions of each ingredient, you can at least note that one of the "rules" is that ingredients are listed from most to least in terms of their proportion.

Bill Lawrence
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
SSShooter
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2944
Location: Southern NJ
Joined: Aug 1st, 2010
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #2 - Jan 23rd, 2022 at 10:51am
Print Post  
As a bottle lasts 2-3 years I can't imagine wasting my time and money gathering the bits (to say nothing of the storage of them) to mix my own. Just like making lube, my time (and I'm retired) is far too valuable to waste it reinventing the wheel.
  

Glenn - Stevens 044 1/2, Bartlein SS 5R barrel in 22LR
Back to top
GTalk  
IP Logged
 
oneatatime
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Online



Posts: 4485
Location: Rocky Mountains
Joined: Oct 30th, 2011
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #3 - Jan 23rd, 2022 at 1:16pm
Print Post  
SSShooter, you missed the discussion that it is no longer made that way and has not been for some time, and unfortunately, it no longer works the way it used to back in the day. (I think nitrobenzine used to be added to drag racing fuel - maybe a source.)
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Cat_Whisperer
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


No 1, 9.3x74R

Posts: 3987
Location: Mountains of Virginia
Joined: Apr 17th, 2004
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #4 - Jan 23rd, 2022 at 2:46pm
Print Post  
for the current flavor of any of the bore cleaners, one can always get the MSDS (material safety data sheet) that lists the ingredients and the health warnings.
  

Cat Whisperer (trk)
Chief of Smoke
Pulaski Coehorn Works and Skunk Works
Drafted May 1970, Retired Maj. U.S.Army
assra #9885
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
calledflyer
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 3988
Joined: Mar 9th, 2015
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #5 - Jan 23rd, 2022 at 3:26pm
Print Post  
we used to add just a small dash of nitrobenzine to our mixed nitromethane fuel to lubricate the pump and metering valves. The naked alcohol/nitro fuel flushed them clean and made them sticky or gall. Later the additive (among many others) was banned. Guys were getting way too dangerous using stuff they didn't know enough about and shouldn't have been in found in uncontrolled use anyhow. We were always too poor, and stupid to use that stuff- dumb luck in real life there. Limiting to alcohol and nitro made testing for the track crews simpler, too. 
The newer parts seem to operate without the lube, and may be made of different material that can function without it. Dunno, quit before I was fully bankrupt.  Cry
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Green_Frog
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


"It ain't easy being green"
ASSRA Life #281

Posts: 4164
Location: Lynchburg, VA
Joined: Apr 18th, 2004
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #6 - Jan 24th, 2022 at 3:38pm
Print Post  
I thought in some of the speculations I read that the "secret ingredient" was acetone(?)  If somebody has some of the old "original" formula still in a bottle on their shelf, why not submit a sample for chemical testing?  I know the old stuff had a distinctive smell, but I lost much of my sense of smell to an illness suffered in 1968 or 69 and I just have to go on memories now.  Undecided

Froggie
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
axman
Participating Member
*
Offline



Posts: 24
Joined: Feb 1st, 2010
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #7 - Jan 24th, 2022 at 4:26pm
Print Post  

Heres one from Uncle Mike’s that says contains kerosene.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
29aholic
Junior Member
**
Offline



Posts: 90
Location: West Central Missouri
Joined: Nov 10th, 2014
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #8 - Jan 25th, 2022 at 11:50am
Print Post  
For jacketed shooters, the allure of the old Hoppe's was the ammonia as it worked on jacket fouling. Sweet's 7.62 was an alternative as it has ammonia in it. I don't know how that works for cast bullets though.
  

CM Brier-If a man says something and there is not a woman around is he still wrong?
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
feren
Participating Member
*
Offline



Posts: 18
Joined: Jan 27th, 2022
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #9 - Feb 3rd, 2022 at 8:16pm
Print Post  
in my opinion, Montana Cowboy works better than hoppes... but hoppes smells so good ..
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
40_Rod
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


Extremism in the persuit
of accuracy is not a
vice

Posts: 4285
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: Apr 20th, 2004
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #10 - Feb 4th, 2022 at 10:07am
Print Post  
I used Hoppies for years and then somebody introduced me to Ed's Red. I bought the ingredients for about $20 all in I make it a quart at a time and after 20 or so years I don't think I can live long enough to use them up.

40 Rod
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
.22-5-40
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 828
Joined: Feb 13th, 2010
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #11 - Feb 4th, 2022 at 10:50am
Print Post  
Years ago Bruno Shooters Supply offered Hoppe's with the Nitro Benzene added. ....Same old original smell. I bought a case of quart bottles..A few years back, I called them about this and was informed the EPA made them quit.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
condorsc
Full Member
***
Offline


NRA Life/Benefactor, ASSRA,
SCV Life

Posts: 210
Location: Beaufort, S.C.
Joined: Nov 13th, 2021
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #12 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 12:04am
Print Post  
feren wrote on Feb 3rd, 2022 at 8:16pm:
in my opinion, Montana Cowboy works better than hoppes... but hoppes smells so good ..


You got that right, amigo. Another smell I'll never forget is the OLD GI bore cleaner, in the OD 1 0z. can. We used to shoot for hours in the Boy Scouts in an attic range in an admin. bldg. on Ft. McLellan, Ala. in the 50s. Unlimited free ammo, using the old M2 Springfield .22s. I keep a can around just to take a sniff now and then. The more sniffs, the better those scores get. God, those were good times.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
oldman46
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 424
Joined: Sep 21st, 2016
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #13 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 12:36am
Print Post  
Don't know what was in the old G.I. bore cleaner, but recall it smelled an awful like creosote. Working on pumping out a barge one night and a dock across the river caught fire. All you could smell was the creosote used as a preservative for the dock pilings and other timbers. Frank
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
GunBum
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 298
Location: SW Missouri
Joined: Oct 30th, 2021
Re: Reliving the Hoppes debate
Reply #14 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 9:38pm
Print Post  
feren wrote on Feb 3rd, 2022 at 8:16pm:
but hoppes smells so good ..


Amyl Acetate.   

The stuff that makes Hoppes smell like Hoppes is Amyl Acetate.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2 
Send TopicPrint