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C. Sharps Highwall DST?
Jan 9th, 2022 at 12:10pm
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Hi all -

Was wondering if anyone has ever converted a C. Sharps highwall to double set triggers?  One of my silhouette rifles is an older C. Sharps I bought from a friend and it shoots quite well with a load I developed.  The trigger is a standard one and okay, but especially when shooting chickens, i know it could be better.   

I spoke to the folks at MVA and they are “fairly sure” it can be done with their parts although the gentleman I discussed this with did not know anyone who had done it with a C. Sharps.   

C. Sharps will install a single set trigger, but I wanted to explore the DST option first.

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

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OVW
  
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Re: C. Sharps Highwall DST?
Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2022 at 2:05pm
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CSA uses a coil mainspring, the MVA is a flat mainspring. You would have to go with a double set trigger bar, and by the time you get everything switched around, you would like be ahead to just get the MVA dst action, and have another rifle put together.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2022 at 4:26pm
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Ranch13 wrote on Jan 9th, 2022 at 2:05pm:
CSA uses a coil mainspring, the MVA is a flat mainspring. You would have to go with a double set trigger bar..............

What is a "double set trigger bar"? 
All the OP needs is the lower tang, Schuetzen lever and the trigger parts. His other parts should be just fine. Having owned both coil & flat spring models and there is no comparison for me. The coil-spring is much easier to deal with. 
Have heard that Wyoming Armory has made the conversion. Give them a call and ask.
  

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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2022 at 5:07pm
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the double set triggers guns have a longer sear
  
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Re: C. Sharps Highwall DST?
Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2022 at 8:25pm
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SSShooter wrote on Jan 9th, 2022 at 4:26pm:
Ranch13 wrote on Jan 9th, 2022 at 2:05pm:
CSA uses a coil mainspring, the MVA is a flat mainspring. You would have to go with a double set trigger bar..............

What is a "double set trigger bar"? 
All the OP needs is the lower tang, Schuetzen lever and the trigger parts. His other parts should be just fine. Having owned both coil & flat spring models and there is no comparison for me. The coil-spring is much easier to deal with. 
Have heard that Wyoming Armory has made the conversion. Give them a call and ask.
 
Ok call it the double set lower tang. Will it be the same size and shape of the CSA and not require a lot of fitting in both the action and the stock?
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What about the hammer? Will it need to be cut for the fly?

Just got thru putting some new springs in my CSA, the ones from Wyoming Armory did fit, altho a bit different in size. 
Changing that single trigger CSA to a double set using parts from MVA or whoever, could turn into a pretty expensive deal.
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 9th, 2022 at 8:30pm
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OVW…..the replies here pretty much covered it.  You’ll need a complete double set trigger tang and a long tailed sear.  You will likely have to remove some wood where the butt stock is inletted.  Where you need to remove material can usually be identified using inletting black. 

I did hear of a person who attempted this conversion and occasionally experienced a situation where the action locked up and couldn’t be opened after firing.   I received a phone call on this issue but couldn’t determine what the problem was.  I never heard if the situation was resolved or what caused it.  My suspicion was that some wood in the butt stock was interfering with the long tail sear when one opened the action.

Good luck.
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2022 at 3:17am
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A guy here in the Boise area got a couple DST MVA conversions, and did them on original single trigger HiWalls.  He said it took a bit of fitting, but they did work.  He was showing somebody at the gun show this afternoon.

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Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2022 at 11:39am
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Thanks for all the replies.  Lots to consider - especially the dollars signs.  I knew the CSA highwall was different with the coil spring action which makes the conversion more complicated.  I may opt for the single set trigger - I’ve had the opportunity to shoot a few CSA highwalls that had one and they are a nice improvement over the standard trigger.  

If anyone has other thoughts on this, I would always welcome your input with a PM.

Thanks again.

OVW

  
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Reply #8 - Jan 11th, 2022 at 6:01pm
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Old Vark WSO wrote on Jan 10th, 2022 at 11:39am:
Thanks for all the replies.  Lots to consider - especially the dollars signs.  I knew the CSA highwall was different with the coil spring action which makes the conversion more complicated.  I may opt for the single set trigger - I’ve had the opportunity to shoot a few CSA highwalls that had one and they are a nice improvement over the standard trigger.
OVW

If you are on facebook (ugh - an unfortunate website that has become popular) then go to the 22BPCR listing and ask John Gage who did the SST trigger on the 1885 he loaned me for the Thanksgiving 22BPCR match in Stillwater, OK this past Nov. I think it was Mike H??? who took over when Dave Crossno passed a couple of years ago. It is as good a trigger as I've ever shot. If you get one working as well a John's you will be very pleased.
  

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Reply #9 - Jan 12th, 2022 at 10:33am
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there is no deafferents in the the trigger system on the flat spring and coil spring High/low walls ken
  
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