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Dec 16th, 2021 at 8:37am
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... he'd have no luck at all. That line comes from an old blues song. The following two attachments are very different circumstances.
  
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Reply #1 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 10:48am
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Holy cow! 
Of course the first was an accident, but the second sounds like he let his temper get the best of him. Amazing that he was not prosecuted for murder on the killing of the restaurant owner!
  

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Reply #2 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 11:07am
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$400 was a lot of money in 1922! Besides, the food in the restaurant was lousy. There must have been a reason for the self defense plea - and it happened at the other guy's house where he had access to all kinds of butcher knives or something, maybe even a ski pole or a hockey stick (after all it was Denver!).
  
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oneatatime wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 11:07am:
$400 was a lot of money in 1922! Besides, the food in the restaurant was lousy. There must have been a reason for the self defense plea - and it happened at the other guy's house where he had access to all kinds of butcher knives or something, maybe even a ski pole or a hockey stick (after all it was Denver!).


Not only at the other guy's house, but the money was stolen in May, and the shooting occurred in July! Obviously not a spur of the moment shooting after the theft! 
Did it take him that long to find out who stole it, or to get mad enough to do something about it? His defense was "insanity and self defense"???
  

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Reply #4 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 12:58pm
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Perhaps the "insanity" was argued to be on the part of the victim?  What made him dangerous enough to validate a claim of self-defense (and perhaps why Peterson came armed to the other man's house)?

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Reply #5 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 2:07pm
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Well, all I can tell you guys is that ya better pay the bill when ol' Axe tells ya what it is!

And, thanks, Joe for these interesting bits. Merry Christmas.
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 2:35pm
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I wonder how he dealt with trick-or-treaters.
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 4:38pm
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Didn't Peterson have a hand damaged (left I think) from a gun shot ?
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:16pm
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John Dutcher's book described AW Peterson as "a quick tempered, hard drinking Swede", but added that he was also known as a "gentle man" who helped kids with repairs, or cleaning of their BB guns.
He also tells that "Old Pete" was involved in several shootings, and the one death. So he certainly was a different kind of gunsmith, even back in old Denver! 
He was also known as one heck of a good shooter! He set an offhand record using a Schoyen setup as a muzzleloader in his early years before partnering with Schoyen.
  

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Reply #9 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 7:53pm
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It seems that one should not antagonize gunsmiths. There was a gunsmith, last name of Dutre, Joe, if I remember correctly, in San Jose, CA. Used to work for Weatherby. He was robbed and stabbed, managed to crawl to the sidewalk in front of his shop, and shot the robber departing the scene of the crime. He faced some charges, as he shot the robber in the back, but there was such an uproar, the charges were dropped. This was long ago, and related from memory, but fairly accurate I believe. I used to visit his shop, and he was very nice to an Inquisitive young lad. I too question the IQ of someone robbing a gun shop armed with a knife. Most, it would seem, have heard the old adage, don't bring a knife to a gunfight
  

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Reply #10 - Dec 17th, 2021 at 9:33am
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I have read about Axel's shooting incident. I have also read comments about Axel being a "mean drunk" and him having a long fued with the victim. As there were no actual witnesses to the shooting, I would say Peterson's long association with the Denver police force and the decitive squad in particular payed off for him in this particular incident.

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rkba2nd wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
It seems that one should not antagonize gunsmiths. There was a gunsmith, last name of Dutre, Joe, if I remember correctly, in San Jose, CA. Used to work for Weatherby. He was robbed and stabbed, managed to crawl to the sidewalk in front of his shop, and shot the robber departing the scene of the crime. He faced some charges, as he shot the robber in the back, but there was such an uproar, the charges were dropped. This was long ago, and related from memory, but fairly accurate I believe. I used to visit his shop, and he was very nice to an Inquisitive young lad. I too question the IQ of someone robbing a gun shop armed with a knife. Most, it would seem, have heard the old adage, don't bring a knife to a gunfight


I remember that fellow, and yes, I think his name was Dutre. I also dimly recall that incident. 

The one or two times I visited his shop was just before he closed the business, it was a dusty cavernous place with bare shelves and almost empty display cases. I had heard he had a few left handed bolt action rifles, which were none too common back then. What I found were a couple of old Savage barreled actions that seemed a bit high priced for a youngster barely out of his teens. 

Pleasant enough fellow though.
  

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Reply #12 - Dec 17th, 2021 at 11:13am
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rkba2nd wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
It seems that one should not antagonize gunsmiths. There was a gunsmith, last name of Dutre, Joe, if I remember correctly, in San Jose, CA. Used to work for Weatherby. He was robbed and stabbed, managed to crawl to the sidewalk in front of his shop, and shot the robber departing the scene of the crime. He faced some charges, as he shot the robber in the back, but there was such an uproar, the charges were dropped. This was long ago, and related from memory, but fairly accurate I believe. I used to visit his shop, and he was very nice to an Inquisitive young lad. I too question the IQ of someone robbing a gun shop armed with a knife. Most, it would seem, have heard the old adage, don't bring a knife to a gunfight


My dad and I knew Joe Dutre. He was a nice man. I never heard the story of the assault and robbery. I had moved to Warshington and put CA behind me.
  

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Reply #13 - Dec 17th, 2021 at 2:24pm
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There was a connection that I was not aware of early on. He rented the building on Santa Clara St. from a grandfather of my girlfriend and wife to be. I tried to find newspaper coverage regarding the incident, but to no avail. I do know that he recovered, and continued his business, but I too moved away.
  

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