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Dec 4th, 2021 at 7:02pm
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In a moment of weakness last night, I made the high bid on a 45-70 Cumberland High Wall.

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Does anyone have any experience with them?  last year I ended up with an 1885 breech block that someone here said was from a Cumberland and it was very well made.  I guess I will find out in a couple of weeks.

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Reply #1 - Dec 4th, 2021 at 7:31pm
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Thanks, Dave.  I will post more when I get it.   

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Reply #2 - Dec 4th, 2021 at 7:42pm
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Jack hopefully it all works out for you. 
Looking forward to more pictures and comments once you have it in hand.
  

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Reply #3 - Dec 4th, 2021 at 8:37pm
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Jack.
back in the early nineties I bought one of these from them via an ad they were running in Rifle Magazine.  The kit they sent me was a flat spring kit I believe, the issue I had with it was the amount of warping the action had, it had been heat treated and as I remember everything was skewed severely.  We corresponded back and forth quite a bit and then I sent the first one back.  They sent me another and the action was better but all the parts were skewed.  In the end, I sent it back and told them I really wanted one but their heat treating was the biggest issue I could see, if they wanted to finish this deal could they send me an action that hadn't been heat treated.  I'd case harden the parts I wanted and leave the bulk of it alone.   They did, but what I got was a coil spring action.  I really wanted a flat spring...  I finished the coil spring in a 45-90 and from there I made my own flat spring action copying the action shape of theirs and the rest I got out of Campbell's book, but I did have to wait six months for this to go to print, so this was all '94 - '95?  By the time I started mine from scratch I'd heard they went out of  business.
I believe theirs were made from 4140 which lent to many heat treat issues with their methods.  Not treated, the action served me quite well and still shoots good today.
  

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Reply #4 - Dec 5th, 2021 at 4:43pm
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In this same period during the 90's, one of the gun rags had a write up on how well their action kits were made.  I ordered 3 kits and was shocked at how crude they were.  A buddy wanted one and the other two I sent back.   
  

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Reply #5 - Dec 5th, 2021 at 6:50pm
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Scott, 
I think that was the article I read, need to dig back through my volumes and find it - just to humor myself.
Dave, 
I believe that was the sequence.

I'd like to hear if anyone else here went through this ordeal.  I had a pair of DS Cole and Hepburn castings from Rodney at the same time- they were an easier build in my opinion.
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Reply #6 - Dec 5th, 2021 at 7:27pm
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OK, now I am nervous.  I guess worst case if the internals are interchangeable with originals, I could part it out on eBay and sell the receiver as a paperweight Smiley

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Reply #7 - Dec 5th, 2021 at 7:56pm
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Hey, maybe you got lucky. Don't sweat it until you see it.
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 5th, 2021 at 8:04pm
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Jack,
I wouldn't sweat it, as I said mine finished out quite well, just took a bit of effort.  I've seen one another fella built, must have been made from parts early on, maybe one of the one's the writers wrote about?  From what I see of your photo's it could be that one.
  

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