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gnoahhh Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1063 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: 32-40 bullet speed Reply #15 - Nov 24^th, 2021 at 8:44am	Print Post
	At the risk of driving farther into the weeds, I too am intrigued by the notion of .22RF breech seating, and am pursuing it in two directions - both with rimfire primed brass and centerfire brass. With the faint murmurings I've heard on the subject maybe enough interest can be drummed up to create an occasional 100 yard event at some matches. (I've stopped trying to chase the 200 yard will-o-the-wisp with 40 grain .22 bullets.)


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lion Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 251 Joined: Feb 25^th, 2012	Re: 32-40 bullet speed Reply #16 - Nov 24^th, 2021 at 9:27am	Print Post
	(I've stopped trying to chase the 200 yard will-o-the-wisp with 40 grain .22 bullets.) It's really frustrating, that's why it's so much fun. Wayne


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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7728 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: 32-40 bullet speed Reply #17 - Nov 24^th, 2021 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	Here’s what I think can’t prove. From observation, no definitive testing Muzzle one thing on target at 200 yards is were speed counts. 32/40 About 1450 at muzzle is “usually” Super Sonic on target. 1450 FPS MV Bullet can be dropping to Sub Sonic on impact if it’s cold or the targets actually more than 200, 200 meters for example. In transition they wobble & it shows with slightly oblong holes . I don’t worry much about it offhand but bench rest it will open groups. Breech seating put a few clicks on the measure holes go nice and round. Larger rounds 38/55 & the like slower MV transition to Sonic Sonic mid range & “go to sleep” before impact We shoot some 200 Rimfire SV offhand playing, good conditions do well, nearly as well as CF, little breeze not so well. It is a lot of fun and will hone your wind skills. Be difficult to run a proper match, high chance of luck strikes depending on conditions. Boats
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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 32-40 bullet speed Reply #18 - Nov 24^th, 2021 at 6:23pm	Print Post
	Every Rifle is different so one needs to figure out what it likes the best. Me personally I have had real good success with a 15 twist Douglas barrel with an average velocity of 1474 fps. In my own 32-40 CPA Schuetzen Jr in 32-40 that I bought back in 1998 in benchrest matches. It is has now been re-barreled by me to a 25-35 with a new half octagon to round #3 10 twist Douglas Blank that I bought from Gail at CPA. I am still shooting that same rifle today and if I could share anything positive to pass onto others it would be to pick one rifle and stay it with it. Allot has already been said about being able to understand the wind, mirage and etc. and being able to compensate for it. But in all honesty developing muscle memory is to me the most important aspect of it all for me. Once you can get your rifle being able to complete competitively. Just stick with it and don't change anything and just go out as much as you can to develope your own muscle memory.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 32-40 bullet speed Reply #19 - Nov 24^th, 2021 at 6:49pm	Print Post
	Might add I did have a few in between over the past 23 years + and all though I was able to get them to all shoot. But in all honestly all of muscle memory was developed with my CPA. So they were all actually a non necessary challenges for me to try and to compete with and all are now long gone.
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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: 32-40 bullet speed Reply #20 - Nov 27^th, 2021 at 12:43pm	Print Post
	Speed and point shape are directly related. The pointier the bullet the faster it wants to travel for best accuracy. When I started Pope style flat nosed bullets were still the fashion and everybody "knew" that you couldn't make those pointy bullets shoot. Others began to question some of those old beliefs and started using semi spitzers and shooting faster and it worked! 40 Rod


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 32-40 bullet speed Reply #21 - Nov 27^th, 2021 at 9:49pm	Print Post
	Pointed is not always the best and neither is longer / heaver using a faster twist. Why would I say such a thing just look at CW Roland was able to accomplish it lasted for what some 30 years. I also set my ASSRA Record shooting a Darr Flat Nose bullet of about what I believe was only about 190 grains. It was also in a 15 twist Douglas and also in 32-40. And it is just abit more wind sensitive but it also seems to be consistently abit more stable in its flight. As Mann had proven back in his day it really is all about the bullets flight. And of course the abilities of who it is who is actually behind a particular rifle. John D Kelly would be an excellent good examples of that and unlike CW Rowland his accomplishments were while he was shooting in competitive Benchrest matches.

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Pentz Senior Forum Member Offline Funf und Zwanzig mit den Hut Posts: 435 Location: Vancouver, WA Joined: Sep 4^th, 2014	Re: 32-40 bullet speed Reply #22 - Dec 8^th, 2021 at 6:40pm	Print Post
	my 200 yard scores improved markedly when I hit upon keeping trans sonic out to 200. 1475 or so works for my 32-40 208 RN in a Shilen 1-14 barrel.

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