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watchthewind Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1114 Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: Mar 10^th, 2015	Barrel Tuners? Nov 22^nd, 2021 at 5:37pm	Print Post
	Following posting some match pics in Match Results an observation was made and a question arose regarding the use of tuners in the .22 event. What is the ASSRA rule regarding the use of tuners? I looked in the rules updated in 2010 and didn't see anything. Thank You, Scott

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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1660 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #1 - Nov 22^nd, 2021 at 5:42pm	Print Post
	It's in there.

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watchthewind Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1114 Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: Mar 10^th, 2015	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #2 - Nov 22^nd, 2021 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	Thank You Jeff and Alan I found it

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #3 - Nov 22^nd, 2021 at 6:20pm	Print Post
	Me personally I would not complain if someone showed up using one. Being able to read and then to adjust to the current conditions to me would have the bigger advantage rather than a tuner being used. All though not per the rules we cannot afford to turn anyone away as most groups are actually getting smaller and especially here.

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watchthewind Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1114 Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: Mar 10^th, 2015	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #4 - Nov 22^nd, 2021 at 8:23pm	Print Post
	IMHO tuners are not in line with the spirit of the activity. But hey who am I to judge….

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #5 - Nov 22^nd, 2021 at 8:45pm	Print Post
	Rules are Rules and they should not be broken Scott. But not saying that I approve of it but where else can one come out and to shoot and to be around such a group. Who also just want to come and to shoot and to be around such folks when they might not actually have somewhere else to go? To be able to go out locally and to enjoy their own passions in life. Being one who has always shot a traditional rifle in Schuetzen Benchrest matches. I have also never feared anything else that I have had to compete against. But even so the rules should still be upheld to be able to hang onto the ASSRA history and the legacy of their own original mission statement.

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 850 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #6 - Nov 24^th, 2021 at 11:23am	Print Post
	Here's another thing We have two RF matches in January and July, 50 shoots off the bench and 50 offhand at 100 yards, where we let anyone shoot any .22RF they like. Bring your Anschutz or your Ruger 10/22, we welcome you. Occassionally someone will win with one of those rifles, but usually they find they can't compete, mostly because they don't have the experience we do and they don't practice rimfire benchrest at 100 yards. What does happened to some of them is that they see just how accurate singlesot rifles can be and they catch the schuetzen bug. That sends them looking for a rifle (we can usually help them out). In one instance this has even led to a shooter getting a centerfire and taking that up as well. We also invite the kids from the Appleseed program to these matches. We let them shoot at 50 yards and award them separate medals. Yes, rules are important to keep the playing field even for matches. However, that doesn't mean that you can open things up once in a while to entice and educate.

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art_ruggiero Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1222 Location: CT Joined: Dec 14^th, 2008	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #7 - Nov 24^th, 2021 at 1:13pm	Print Post
	rules without shooters are worthless be flexible art


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #8 - Nov 24^th, 2021 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	Strange folks here keep saying they want to keep the ASSRA and its History alive and well. That is also the intent of the rules so how would ignoring them help to preserve what they have accomplished to date.

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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7728 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #9 - Nov 24^th, 2021 at 3:09pm	Print Post
	When I was Match Director our club offhand SS matches would allow any Rimfire scored and reported separately. Any sight too. We picked up a lot of shooters that way, converting to single shots later. Personally would not be concerned about offhand shooters using tuners. Distraction from the job at hand, breaking good offhand shots. CF more restrictive due noise and potential target damage. Lot of 38/55 & 45/70 lever actions though. Found even very good offhand lever 38/55 shooters gave up about 10% score wise, compared to SS rifles.. Some converted to SShot others use the match to practice the 200 yard Ram leg Lever silhouette Welcome many as possible club welcomes when we possable that’s how we get 25 to line capacity 32 shooters. Shouldnote we do not shoot ASSRA rules. Due range time demands other disciplines must run shoulder to shoulder relays 9 am start clear the range by 1 pm for modern Silhouette rifle match. Re Entry & breech seating impossible Boats
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