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ISS Oldtimer Offline Posts: 570 Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #15 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 1:24am	Print Post
	Simple answer: the WAAGE pot. It is the industry standard, what professionals use. Mine has held a +/- 2-degrees constant for the past several years. PID controller is designed in. Rich


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Grand slam Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 352 Location: Mountains of E. Tennessee Joined: Jun 7^th, 2015	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #16 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 6:09am	Print Post
	WAAGE


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2153 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #17 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 10:38am	Print Post
	JerryH, One good reason I would not attempt bypass the thermostat is the RCBS Pro-Melt is the entire unit is pop-riveted together with zero access to the thermostat unless several rivets are drilled out & then replaced. If the desired temp, in your case 825 degrees, can be reached with a PID & the Pro-Melt cranked full on then there's no reason for a bypass. Wayne

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #18 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 11:36am	Print Post
	I am not familiar the ProMelt but some pots won't let one go up to or past 800 degrees without having to bypass their thermostats. My only experience with this personally has been with a Lee 20Lb. lead pot and a pre digital Lyman 25Lb lead pot. It would only just barely get to 750 degrees while also having been adjusted to raise the temp. even more. The same also held true with the Lee Pot.

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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 634 Location: Wyoming Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #19 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 11:51am	Print Post
	I mentioned the Easy Melt2, the replies refer to the Pro-Melt. My PID controller works fine, and goes over past 800 degrees. Past 2 years of hard usage, so we will see how long it lasts.


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2153 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #20 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 12:24pm	Print Post
	KFW wrote on Nov 15^th, 2021 at 11:51am: I mentioned the Easy Melt2, the replies refer to the Pro-Melt. My PID controller works fine, and goes over past 800 degrees. Past 2 years of hard usage, so we will see how long it lasts. I've been using the original Easy Melt since it was 1st introduced in early 2018 (well over 3 yrs) for casting approximately 3000 415gr BPCR bullets so far. It continues to great with no problems. Wayne

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #21 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 1:04pm	Print Post
	It actually just boils down to what is the most convenient to us. Now matter what type of pot even if using a propane burner. As long as one can keep the temp. within reason any of them would then be the best pot for one to use. It actually isn't based on how much it cost. I can do the same with my very inexpensive 20lb. Lee Pot as my Lyman MAG25 Digital Melting Furnace will also do. As was explained in an earlier post while also using a good Thermometer.

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burntwater Oldtimer Offline Posts: 598 Location: Michigan Joined: Feb 5^th, 2018	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #22 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 7:03pm	Print Post
	The Waage is made by a NJ company who has been making high quality solder pots and other temp control vessels for various industrial applications for a long time. I’ve had several I picked up at auctions etc from $20 to $75. The one Ive been using for the past 35 years had a pot full of SN96 solder which is tin and silver $$$. The pot hold temps consistently +-5° regardless of level. They are out there you just have to look. New is pricey. Rick


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 850 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #23 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 7:45pm	Print Post
	I have an old Saeco furnace that has no thermostat on it. Who makes a good PID controller?

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #24 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 8:13pm	Print Post
	I can very easily cast match grade bullets and all being within 4 tenths. Or even 3 if I actually felt that I actually needed to do so with a very inexpensive 20lb. Lee ladle casting pot. And I have actually done so for well over 15 years in extremely competitive benchrest shooting including a national record and a national championship. The only reason I now use a Lyman MAG 25 Digital Melting Furnace is because it was gifted to me. And this was after I reached those personal accomplishments and not prior too. The only reason I bring it up is if it can save anyone some money that they can then put towards something allot more important than.
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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1964 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #25 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 8:35pm	Print Post
	I agree with TEXASMac, I use a lee 20lb, it will go well above 825 if wide open with just its thermostat. So with my PID and the Lee set full open the PID does all the control. I have two lee pots both have PIDS. The oldest I wore thru the edge of the pot so decided to replace the pot. Ordered one from Lee and they sent me a new pot free (except shipping), pretty hard to beat that customer service.


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ballardhepburnmich ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 598 Location: Scotts,mi. Joined: May 20^th, 2015	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #26 - Nov 15^th, 2021 at 11:37pm	Print Post
	Lee has some of the best customer service I have ever experienced. Lee Gibbs Pres.ASSRA


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Grumpy gumpy Full Member Offline Posts: 214 Location: australia Joined: Jul 6^th, 2016	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #27 - Nov 16^th, 2021 at 12:22am	Print Post
	ballardhepburnmich wrote on Nov 15^th, 2021 at 11:37pm: Lee has some of the best customer service I have ever experienced. Lee Gibbs Pres.ASSRA Unless you live outside the US, then they couldn’t care less Gumpy


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cuslog Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Calgary, Alberta Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #28 - Nov 16^th, 2021 at 8:42am	Print Post
	Smoke wrote on Nov 15^th, 2021 at 7:45pm: I have an old Saeco furnace that has no thermostat on it. Who makes a good PID controller? There's a guy on Cast Bullets forum that makes / sells them - screen name is "Hatch" IIRC. I bought the parts from Amazon and wired it myself - about $40 - $50 in parts and some time.


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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2153 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Best lead pot? Reply #29 - Nov 16^th, 2021 at 11:50am	Print Post
	[quote author=3C2A2C3330385F0 There's a guy on Cast Bullets forum that makes / sells them - screen name is "Hatch" IIRC. I bought the parts from Amazon and wired it myself - about $40 - $50 in parts and some time. [/quote] Just curious, after wiring up the components did you have any problems programming the controller, i.e, determining what P, I, D values to use? Wayne

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