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Miroku 1885 trigger
Nov 14th, 2021 at 4:43pm
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Any one successful in getting the trigger on one of these down to a real light weight, say 1 pound or a little less?
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Reply #1 - Nov 14th, 2021 at 5:04pm
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The lowest I've gotten my Winchester/Miroku Low Wall .22RF is a skinch under 2 pounds, using the adjusting screw. Lighter than that and it won't withstand the "bang the butt on the floor" test.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 14th, 2021 at 6:33pm
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gnoahhh wrote on Nov 14th, 2021 at 5:04pm:
The lowest I've gotten my Winchester/Miroku Low Wall .22RF is a skinch under 2 pounds, using the adjusting screw. Lighter than that and it won't withstand the "bang the butt on the floor" test.


😢 was really hoping to get close to 1 pound, shot mine today and that close to 2 pounds felt like the safety was on 🤣 Bench is not to bad but standing is a whole other story......
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Reply #3 - Nov 15th, 2021 at 12:11am
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Someone that knows what they're doing can safely reduce the trigger pull down to 1lb.  I understand that Lee Shaver will do it but he has to have the rifle to insure it's safe.  

Lee offers a Miroku 1885 sear service requiring that the trigger/sear (the sear is penned to the trigger) is sent to him to modify the sear.  He returns the trigger/sear & a replacement lighter trigger spring.  But he will not reduce the subsequent trigger pull to less that 1.75 to 2lbs unless he has the rifle.

I shoot with a guy that has a Browning 1885 with around a 1lb trigger but I'm not disclosing who did the work since it wasn't lee.

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Reply #4 - Nov 15th, 2021 at 1:27am
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A friend/gunsmith named Steve Fotou, many years ago, bought one of the original Browning 78s.  He converted one to DSTs, and a set weight of +/- 2oz.  He lives in the Seattle area these days.

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Reply #5 - Nov 15th, 2021 at 8:59am
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Sulphur Gulch gunsmithing, Steve Baldwin or Lee Shaver can all do a good job on those triggers.
I would suggest that a true 2 lb trigger pull should not be a problem shooting off hand. At least it isn't on any of my 85's, and it may be just a touch lite at 2 lbs.
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 15th, 2021 at 10:41am
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Guys at our club shoot well and sometimes win offhand matches with Mikoru Rimfire low walls & unaltered triggers.

Much as I like my set trigger CPA rifles not a lot of difference in my Rimfire offhand scores when using non conforming not for match placement, Marlin 39a or 1922 M2 Springfield. Lack of bad shots makes the score and nice smooth 2-3 lb trigger is not a big obstacle to good shots. 

Still long run 4 oz set saves bad pulls compared to 2-3 lbs. you can jerk it without moving the rifle much. You can also get one off fast when wind backs without staging the heavy trigger.

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Ranch13 wrote on Nov 15th, 2021 at 8:59am:
Sulphur Gulch gunsmithing, Steve Baldwin or Lee Shaver can all do a good job on those triggers.
I would suggest that a true 2 lb trigger pull should not be a problem shooting off hand. At least it isn't on any of my 85's, and it may be just a touch lite at 2 lbs.


I agree, a crisp 2# should be fine, just doesn’t seem like the trigger set is easily worked on. I’m going th send Lee Shaver a note.
  
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Reply #8 - Nov 15th, 2021 at 12:53pm
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Bob259 wrote on Nov 15th, 2021 at 12:48pm:

I agree, a crisp 2# should be fine, just doesn’t seem like the trigger set is easily worked on. I’m going to send Lee Shaver a note.


I'd sure be interested in his response if you could post it here.

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Reply #9 - Nov 15th, 2021 at 12:55pm
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Bob259 wrote on Nov 15th, 2021 at 12:48pm:
Ranch13 wrote on Nov 15th, 2021 at 8:59am:
Sulphur Gulch gunsmithing, Steve Baldwin or Lee Shaver can all do a good job on those triggers.
I would suggest that a true 2 lb trigger pull should not be a problem shooting off hand. At least it isn't on any of my 85's, and it may be just a touch lite at 2 lbs.


I agree, a crisp 2# should be fine, just doesn’t seem like the trigger set is easily worked on. I’m going th send Lee Shaver a note.


My problem is being used to light air rifle and match rifle triggers even 2# feels like a 35# pull 😆 if I could get a crisp 2# I could probably live with it even with my carpal tunnel. If worse comes to worse I’ll just find a used CPA or order a new one after selling some of my safe queens.
  
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Reply #10 - Nov 15th, 2021 at 4:12pm
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I have several that Lee did with the rifle in his shop, I told him a crisp 1.5 trigger and he delivered.
  
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Reply #11 - Nov 15th, 2021 at 7:16pm
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Have campaigned Anschutz silhouette & Match rifles + Walther Air rifles & long time with CPA triggers.  Can say you are not likely to be satisfied with the Mikoru in any way unless willing to accept a different standard of performance. 

I shoot Lever Silhouette with Old Marlins and do fine on the large Silhouette Targets.  Takes a dozen shots or so to settle down & switch to the heavy triggers. And  pre single shot match, even as much as a week before, don’t ever shoot the 2-3 lb triggers. Heavy to light bothers me more than the other way 

Still the Mikoku is a sought after rifle. Figure what you could sell it for plus the money saved not paying for trigger adjustments. Bet it’s not far from a CSharps High wall or CPA price.

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Reply #12 - Nov 16th, 2021 at 11:39pm
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boats wrote on Nov 15th, 2021 at 7:16pm:
Have campaigned Anschutz silhouette & Match rifles + Walther Air rifles & long time with CPA triggers.  Can say you are not likely to be satisfied with the Mikoru in any way unless willing to accept a different standard of performance. 

I shoot Lever Silhouette with Old Marlins and do fine on the large Silhouette Targets.  Takes a dozen shots or so to settle down & switch to the heavy triggers. And  pre single shot match, even as much as a week before, don’t ever shoot the 2-3 lb triggers. Heavy to light bothers me more than the other way 

Still the Mikoku is a sought after rifle. Figure what you could sell it for plus the money saved not paying for trigger adjustments. Bet it’s not far from a CSharps High wall or CPA price.

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Thanks.... I’m thinking that may be the way to go, love that rifle, but if I can’t get a good trigger may have to call on a CPA
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 17th, 2021 at 9:49am
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My problem is being used to light air rifle and match rifle triggers even 2# feels like a 35# pull 😆 if I could get a crisp 2# I could probably live with it even with my carpal tunnel. If worse comes to worse I’ll just find a used CPA or order a new one after selling some of my safe queens.
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I'm assuming you're looking at getting into the 22bpcr game. It's a different beast than what you've shot in air rifle. You're about to jump into a time limited fast paced race. If your carpal tunnel is bad , then you're likely to find the 2 lb trigger pull to be much less of a hinderance than trying to handle 12-14 22 shells in an 8 minute time limit. Shooting those small targets..
A good crisp 2 lb pull and find the ammunition that rifle likes the best, high quality sights,coupled with a good spotter , will keep you well within the game. 
I would suggest you get a good trigger job learn to shoot the rifle with the ammunition it prefers, before you start throwing money down the rabbit hole on this rifle and that....
  
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Reply #14 - Nov 18th, 2021 at 7:19am
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That’s a important point and one often missed, suitability for the intended use. Back to my 3 # trigger lever Silhouette rifles, counted the steps to shoot a relay while practicing yesterday. Load the magazine is on the load make ready clock,  fire separate time. On the fire clock it’s two strokes of the lever open and close, between shots.

CPA which is a much more accurate rifle in every way it’s 7 motions between shots. 10 shot relay plus sighters 50-60 more hand motions. Matches that rifle competes relays not timed. Right tool for the job more important than absolute accuracy or light triggers 

2nd another point Ranch  13 made. Good sights, repeatable adjustments, and good spotter most important thing in Silhouette by a large margin 

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