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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1631 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #15 - Oct 26^th, 2021 at 5:23pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 5:17pm: I personally don't have any interest in Ballards and I have never owned one. But that does not mean I have not shot several over the past 23 years of competitive shooting. So why is it that you are now questioning my own personal experiences that you have absolutely no knowledge about? Because you have none on the subject. I've shot competitively with the cast bullets for 30 years but I would not input on the subject because I have no experience. You what they say about opinions...


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #16 - Oct 26^th, 2021 at 5:31pm	Print Post
	All of the top Rimfire Benchrest Shooters that I have had the pleasure to compete with. All shot Miller Rifles but they also do not have an exposed Hammer and that is not what the OP is asking about.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #17 - Oct 26^th, 2021 at 5:48pm	Print Post
	I had a CPA 441/2 with a Full #4 Octagon Shilen Barrel and Match Chamber that could compete with the rest in a Benchrest Match. More than good enough to get me into the top 3 when I did my own part. Unfortunately it has now become more about the non-affordable ammunition to most like myself. And no longer just about one's own personal Shooting abilities and it does actually make that much difference for one to be able to be competitive.

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gnoahhh Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1063 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #18 - Oct 26^th, 2021 at 9:33pm	Print Post
	I enjoy the stunning accuracy of both My 417 Walnut Hill and Ballard/Stevens. Can't say which is better. But neither quite matches the accuracy of my BSA International MkI which gets the nod when there's serious contention at 100 yards. A CPA would be nice, but I think I'll concentrate on a Ballard build in the works for next year's competitions - hoping it matches the BSA's accuracy.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #19 - Oct 26^th, 2021 at 10:09pm	Print Post
	" Because you have none on the subject. I've shot competitively with the cast bullets for 30 years but I would not input on the subject because I have no experience. " " You what they say about opinions. " Cbashooter my comments were only in regards to Rimfire Benchrest competition! Cast bullet shooting had nothing at all to do with it. And I don't share personal opinions when it comes to competitive shooting but only long term personal experiences.

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Amoretti Full Member Offline Posts: 222 Location: thermopolis, Wy Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2009	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #20 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 9:46am	Print Post
	Someone mentioned a 9 o clock firing pin for the 85, Why not make a 9 o clock pin as an easier way to cure the problem of hammering the extractor? John


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18048 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #21 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 10:39am	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 5:17pm: I personally don't have any interest in Ballards and I have never owned one. But that does not mean I have not shot several over the past 23 years of competitive shooting. So why is it that you are now questioning my own personal experiences that you have absolutely no knowledge about? Maybe because you mentioned Grand Slam wanted answers, and indicated they should be from "experience", as if I don't have any? And as you say, you have no knowledge of my shooting either. So I think I have an equal right to respond to him as you. Did you think I didn't catch that jab you took at my reply? I think owning and shooting an number of Ballard rifles might give me some ability to respond intelligently about their merit.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #22 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 1:06pm	Print Post
	I wasn't taking a Jab at you and I am not sure how you came up with that conclusion again. I consider you to be a real good friend but apparently you no longer feel same. This miss-undertanding between us needs to be resolved.

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4570mike Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 460 Location: On the Peninsula Joined: Apr 11^th, 2013	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #23 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 1:21pm	Print Post
	The Board Index needs a new Section for "Shin Kicking".


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18048 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #24 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 1:29pm	Print Post
	This reply isn't to you John, it's to the OP, so ignore anything I post. My Cody Ballard in .22LR with a Badger match barrel, and match chamber will shoot better than my Winchester 52 or my old Stevens 44 benchrest rifles. Both of the latter were the best .22 smallbores I shot in adult smallbore. But once I got this Cody Ballard combo, I soon sold both the Win. 52, and the Stevens 44, as it outshot both, regardless of the ammo I tried in all three guns. The only drawback to my Cody Ballard is it uses a CF style extractor, which doesn't extract the cases as well as the sliding extractor. So I made a tool to hook the rims and easily pull the spent cases out after each shot. But the extractor is at 9 o'clock, and the firing pin strikes at 12 o'clock, which both add to it's accuracy. The barrel is a full round 1.25" diameter, and I use MVA Soule tang sight with their Hadley disc, and a Baldwin globe front with spirit level.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #25 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:12pm	Print Post
	Thanks for Denying my request and now we both now know where you stand. It was I who highly recommend the use of a Ballard rifle. It has been you who have said more than once I have no interest in competitive Benchrest. But now you are the one who is an expert in the conversation? I have been shooting competitive Benchrest for 23+ years now and yet it was you who took a Jab at Me.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18048 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #26 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:23pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:12pm: Thanks for Denying my request and now we both now know where you stand. It was I who highly recommend the use of a Ballard rifle. It has been you who have said more than once I have no interest in competitive Benchrest. But now you are the one who is an expert in the conversation? I have been shooting competitive Benchrest for 23+ years now and yet it was you who took a Jab at Me. Poor John. I'm crying big tears for you. Please stop posting to me. I can't take the agony you're going through.

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4570mike Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 460 Location: On the Peninsula Joined: Apr 11^th, 2013	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #27 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:29pm	Print Post
	Ditch the “shin kicking”. Now we need a Section for “pi**ing on your shoes” Wizzzzz!


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18048 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #28 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:35pm	Print Post
	Poor John, always the victim. You're breaking my heart. Please for your own sanity, give it a rest.

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4570mike Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 460 Location: On the Peninsula Joined: Apr 11^th, 2013	Re: .22 LR Bench rest match rifle. Reply #29 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	One, two, three “kick”! Four, five, six “wizzz” !


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