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Reply #15 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 9:11am
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"ATTEMPTING" to parse the information provided...

"The Hoppes 9 is the original formula with ammonia that is highly corrosive. You want to make sure not to let it sit on non-metallic parts as it can cause damage to those parts.

So, do not allow Hoppe's Bore Cleaner to touch "non-metallic" parts (for any length of time).  I have known for years that Hoppe's can damage the finish on wood stocks.

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"Several copper-removing bore cleaners contain ammonium hydroxide, just as does Hoppe's Bench Rest #9 Copper Gun Bore Cleaner, Sweet's is a good example.  These bore cleaners warn not to leave the cleaner in a bore more than about 15-20 minutes before patching it out."

IMO, do not let any of these ammonia based products to remain in the barrel for more than 15-20 minutes.  Personally, other than oil, I only allow rifle-cleaning products to remain on metal for only a short length of time.  I then run barely damp patch with Ballistol to wipe away any remaining cleaner, followed by a dry then a damp patch with Ballistol, followed with a wipe-down of metal parts.

No, I am not a chemist.  What say you?

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Reply #16 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 10:43am
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I just cleaned two rifle barrels and left Hoppes bore solvent in the bores.
  

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Reply #17 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 12:25pm
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In the last decade or so I use Gunzilla in the barrel and wipe down the rest of the metal with Hoppes. Before this, it was all Hoppes except in my youth in Florida I used Rig. I only use oil on moving parts.
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 12:34pm
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Read the label on your bottle of Hoppes. There is still a lot of the "old' stuff around which has the instructions that say you can run a damp patch through the bore when you are done cleaning. 
The product which is on the shelf now, is labelled "Traditional" and it says "corrosive" on the label. That version says to run dry patches after cleaning and then apply oil. 
What is problematic is that the label which says "Traditional" will lead people to believe they are using the old safe version of Hoppes' which you can leave in the bore. This is not true and hopefully no one will have their bore ruined. 
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Reply #19 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 1:36pm
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Guess I will have to check labels when and if I buy from now on, but all the Hoppe's that I have now is the old stuff, like me. Bought lots of 16 oz bottles when in the business. Never had a problem. No cure for old!!
  

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Reply #20 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 2:06pm
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My Hoppes is a large bottle of the old but not the ancient kind (that really had that unique smell - when did they quit that 25 or 30 years ago?).
  
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Reply #21 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 2:12pm
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There are 2 cleaning, preventative and rust preventative compounds that have never touched any of my firearms … Hoppe’s and Ballistol 
Eezox cleans, lubes and is a rust preventative…. Been through quarts of the product
  
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Reply #22 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 3:13pm
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Some tests were run on rust prevention products, Eezox came out on top. Can't vouch for cleaning and lubing, but there are better lubes for sure, depending on use. No humidity to speak of where I live, so rust of little concern, I use LPS1 for a wipe down as it doesn't leave a greasy film. This is one of those "whatever has worked well for you, keep using it" or "if it ain't broke, no need to fixit", situations it seems to me.
  

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Reply #23 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 4:26pm
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With all due respect rkba2nd, I respectfully disagree with the position that a person should use whatever has worked in the past.
My point in bringing this up is to alert long time users of Hoppes that it is no longer recommended to leave the product in the bore. What has worked in the past (leaving the bore wet with Hoppes #9) is probably not a good idea with the product that is currently being sold under the "traditional" label.
Otherwise, I generally agree that if it aint broke, dont fix it. 
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Reply #24 - Sep 23rd, 2021 at 2:53pm
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Joe-s  I guess what I should have said was, keep using it until one finds some thing better. That is why I mentioned having to read the labels in the future, when my supply of the "old" stuff runs out. This is a good example of thinking things through before hitting the post key, and why this site is so useful. Sorry too, about the lack of ability to underline in your screen name!! Part of the old guy learning new tricks.
  

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Reply #25 - Sep 23rd, 2021 at 3:32pm
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My 32oz bottle of the good old stuff is about two thirds full so should last me about five to seven years. 

I did order a bottle of Ballistol. How is it used? Is it an oil or a solvent like Hoppes or must I have a seperate solvent and then use the Ballistol for rust prevention? 

Oh why did Hoppes have to fix what wasn't broken? Dratts!  Sad
  

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Reply #26 - Sep 23rd, 2021 at 5:06pm
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For what it's worth I use the new Hoppe's no.9 to clean out the powder residue first and it would appear to clean powder residue out better than the original, then several dry patches and then use what I have left of my old style Hoppe's and leave in the barrel over night to clean out the copper. 
Then a couple of clean patches through and then use engine oil. 
I thought the company changed the recipe of the original because of a possible court case because the original could have been cancerous 
My wife hates the smell of Hoppe's when I put them in the trash under the sink.
  
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Reply #27 - Sep 24th, 2021 at 8:46pm
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Here is the reply I got.  Logic by Grammarly?

Joe,

Thank you for contacting Bushnell Customer Support.   I’d be happy to help you with this question.   

Hello, Nothing has changed with Hoppes Solvent, maybe the packaging or label. You can still use it like you always have, just make sure to apply oil after words to your bore.
  

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Reply #28 - Sep 27th, 2021 at 12:12am
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Just checked my two quart bottles of Hoppe's and the only mention of the word "corrosive" has to do with removing the corrosive priming and residues. Both are at least 5 years old and in plastic bottles. The older Hoppe's had what they called nitro benzine in it. That was removed as it was a cancer causing agent. Have been using Kroil, Butch's Bore Shine. Frank
  
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Reply #29 - Sep 27th, 2021 at 1:48am
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My dad always used G96. It had a pleasant smell that reminded me of bananas.

Maybe I order me some.
  

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