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Re: re trying paper patching
Reply #15 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 9:04am
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Further searching of my bookcase under a pile of books I got lucky and found a copy of Randys book on paper patching that I didn't remember I had, so much for my memory.
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Re: re trying paper patching
Reply #17 - Sep 22nd, 2021 at 9:34pm
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I have a friend here in OZ who lives near me, he is lending me a copy of Paul Matthews book on paper patching, soon I will be an expert, with a lot of fixed ideas that my way is the only way, I see that here quite a lot, you may have noticed it yourself.
Once I'm shooting 1" groups , all day, everyday, I will post my results so all can share, this may take a while.
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Reply #18 - Sep 23rd, 2021 at 1:49am
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“You’re a daisy if you do.”   Smiley
  
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Reply #19 - Sep 23rd, 2021 at 1:55am
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Just a quick question, what exactly is jojoba oil, and what is it usually used for ?. I have read that it can be used to thin down SPG to make soft lube cookies which is why I'm interested in getting some, also what type of stores sell it ?
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Re: jojoba oil
Reply #20 - Sep 23rd, 2021 at 3:32am
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Mick B wrote on Sep 23rd, 2021 at 1:55am:
Just a quick question, what exactly is jojoba oil, and what is it usually used for ?. I have read that it can be used to thin down SPG to make soft lube cookies which is why I'm interested in getting some, also what type of stores sell it ?
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Re: re trying paper patching
Reply #21 - Sep 23rd, 2021 at 6:47am
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Mick,

For starters keep away from lubes and oils, cookies etc.  Just use a dry patch, normal overpowder wad (or2), and concentrate on wiping routine to get a clean dry barrel between shots.
The rest can come later if you feel so inclined, but in all probability you won't even need it...
Repeatability is the name of the game, and the simpler your load, the easier it is to keep on doing things the same.  Remember the KISS principle!
  
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Re: re trying paper patching
Reply #22 - Sep 23rd, 2021 at 9:37am
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Many variables in shooting PP (just like GG). One of our best PP shooters (at least he wins more often than not - like the overall hi-agg at this years BPCR Nationals) shoots a straight bullet wrapped to near groove diameter. Other good PP shooters wrap to just bore diameter and, then again, others use DEPP bullets. You should have a good 'chase' to find the right load.
  
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Reply #23 - Sep 23rd, 2021 at 8:20pm
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Looks like the local chemist ( drug store where you are ) may be a good place to try first. We shall see.
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Re: re trying paper patching
Reply #24 - Sep 24th, 2021 at 1:26am
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Just got a small bottle of jojoba oil from my local health food store. Nobody warned me as to how expensive it would be, a 125ml bottle cost A$29.00. I read on the label that is it good for
removing fine lines and wrinkles so I might give it a go on my face, as well as using it to thin down the SPG for lube wads. Waste not, want not.
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Re: re trying paper patching
Reply #25 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 11:31am
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Mick B,
I would not waste energy trying lube wads unless you are experiencing leading.  That is what stopped a leading problem in a mis-chambered rifle I had.

Keep on hav'n fun!
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Re: re trying paper patching
Reply #26 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 9:18pm
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I have never had any leading issues in the past, probably because I have only used BP and velocities have been in the 1200 fps range. My limited PP experiments in the past were with my 45-90 and didn't seem to show much promise as I was getting good accuracy using GG bullets, SPG lube, and wiping between shots.
My only reason for considering lube wads in the 40-60 was because I thought, that seeing as PP bullets had a supposed reputation for wearing barrels, a little lube may help prevent this to some degree. Anyway it costs nothing to try, and I will still have any left over jojoba oil to use on my facial wrinkles, so nothings wasted.
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Re: re trying paper patching
Reply #27 - Oct 5th, 2021 at 8:19pm
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Just a quick question re lube wads. I have received conflicting advice re lube wads and no lube wads, I intend to try both ways to see what works best for me in MY rifle.
One thing that has puzzled me is that when the use of lube wads is mentioned the lube wad is usually sandwiched between the over powder wad and the wad under the bullet. I was thinking of just putting a soft layer of lube on top of the over powder powder wad and seating the bullet straight on top of the lube.
My theory was that this would most likely lead to more lube being left in the barrel after firing and any lube stuck to the base of the bullet would be spun off when the bullet left the muzzle, any thoughts on this idea ?.
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Re: re trying paper patching
Reply #28 - Oct 5th, 2021 at 10:54pm
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I would not want to tempt fate by allowing something to stick to the bottom of the bullet.
If the cartridges get very warm, the lube came run into the powder or unto the bullet.  Either of these situations can introduce inconsistency from shot to shot.

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Re: re trying paper patching
Reply #29 - Oct 5th, 2021 at 11:55pm
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I figured that as 90% of the base of the bullet would be covered by the folded over patching that would only leave a very small area exposed to the lube. Of course if the patch did not separate from the bullet upon exit from the barrel, accuracy is probably stuffed anyway.
Mike.
This was only one idea of hundreds I was going to try, it's going to be a long journey.
  
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