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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #15 - Jun 28^th, 2021 at 9:13am	Print Post
	I do not use a wad or any filler.

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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1232 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #16 - Jun 28^th, 2021 at 10:47am	Print Post
	rjmelehan Whether or not to use a wad depends on what cartridge you are shooting. If a .32-40 (or similar traditional cartridge) use no wad. The .32 Miller short (or similar cartridge) requires some sort of wad in the case mouth - typically floral foam. I've never been a fan of using filler - period. Another tip about wads. Do not seat a wad on the powder. This can produce a ring in your chamber at the bullet base. Charlie Dell laid out his findings on that in his book - The Modern Schuetzen Rifle. As for High Wall breech seaters contact: Bill Bargloff or Jerry Cleave, they both hang out occasionally on this forum and are also listed in my book - Loading and Shooting Traditional American Schuetzen Rifles.

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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4134 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #17 - Jun 28^th, 2021 at 11:21am	Print Post
	For Smokeless Powder loads in my .32 RKS case (only a third filled with powder) I plug the end of the case with a wad made from the 3/4" pipe insulation as a cork. Yes there will be an air space between the wad and powder. I NEVER place my wad down on the powder when shooting Smokeless Powder and I never use a filler. Since we always shoot our Schuetzen rifles in a level position it will never affect accuracy from the powder's positioning in a partially filled case. To breech seat with Black Powder I leave NO air space between the wad and powder and NO air space between the wad and bullet base. I use .060 vegetable wads to fill air voids in BP filled cases.
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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #18 - Jun 28^th, 2021 at 11:22am	Print Post
	In regards to a seater you do want to purchase one with mechanical leverage. David Mos is another to check with he just recently announced that he was going to start making breech seaters in the for sale section. Willis Gregory is another one to check with but I am not sure if he is still making breech seaters or possibly not.

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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4134 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #19 - Jun 28^th, 2021 at 11:51am	Print Post
	John Any pictures of the breech seaters now coming available. Hopefully it will be adjustable like the old Weber seaters so you can fine tune your loads with changing environmental conditions.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #20 - Jun 28^th, 2021 at 1:14pm	Print Post
	To cap the case of BP or Smokeless powder charges, try a pinch of cotton ball. Pure cotton’s burning temp is 400F. In addition to preserve the bullet bases with no deformation or fins when when seating the bullet, I put 1/8” adhesive base wad on the bullet base. That too has a burning temp of 460F


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #21 - Jun 29^th, 2021 at 10:21am	Print Post
	No pictures of what might be newly coming out Dave.

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RJ-35-40 Full Member Offline Posts: 166 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2016	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #22 - Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 5:24am	Print Post
	RSW wrote on Jun 28^th, 2021 at 10:47am: rjmelehan Whether or not to use a wad depends on what cartridge you are shooting. If a .32-40 (or similar traditional cartridge) use no wad. The .32 Miller short (or similar cartridge) requires some sort of wad in the case mouth - typically floral foam. I've never been a fan of using filler - period. Another tip about wads. Do not seat a wad on the powder. This can produce a ring in your chamber at the bullet base. Charlie Dell laid out his findings on that in his book - The Modern Schuetzen Rifle. As for High Wall breech seaters contact: Bill Bargloff or Jerry Cleave, they both hang out occasionally on this forum and are also listed in my book - Loading and Shooting Traditional American Schuetzen Rifles. Randy, Dave , John Thank you gents for your recommendations. So does that pipe insulation burn up or gum up the bore ? Thx.. Bob Randy, Amazon is out of stock on your book


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RJ-35-40 Full Member Offline Posts: 166 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2016	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #23 - Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 5:26am	Print Post
	Quote: To cap the case of BP or Smokeless powder charges, try a pinch of cotton ball. Pure cotton’s burning temp is 400F. In addition to preserve the bullet bases with no deformation or fins when when seating the bullet, I put 1/8” adhesive base wad on the bullet base. That too has a burning temp of 460F John, “Adhesive Base Wad”....????


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3938 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #24 - Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:25am	Print Post
	RJ-35-40 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 5:26am: Quote: To cap the case of BP or Smokeless powder charges, try a pinch of cotton ball. Pure cotton’s burning temp is 400F. In addition to preserve the bullet bases with no deformation or fins when when seating the bullet, I put 1/8” adhesive base wad on the bullet base. That too has a burning temp of 460F John, “Adhesive Base Wad”....???? Adhesive Base Wad ?? source?

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gnoahhh Oldtimer Offline Posts: 920 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Joined: Mar 31^st, 2010	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #25 - Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 8:40am	Print Post
	I'm having trouble picturing how one can afix an adhesive base wad to a bullet in a perfect manner so as to completely cover the base and also not be even the slightest bit off center so as to not impact the balance of the bullet.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Breech seating lessons Reply #26 - Aug 22^nd, 2021 at 9:25am	Print Post
	Excellent thread but you need a magnifying glass to read it due to the images not reduced in size or posted as attachments


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