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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 357 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Possible Pope Krag .22 Jun 20^th, 2021 at 12:24pm	Print Post
	I have a Highwall with a 29.75 inch barrel which measures .980 at the breech and .620 at the muzzle. It's a .22 lr. It has left hand twist rifling. There are no marks on the barrel. I'm wondering if it's one of the Pope Krag barrels. Trying to post pictures.


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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 357 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #1 - Jun 20^th, 2021 at 12:27pm	Print Post
	Pictures.


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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 357 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #2 - Jun 20^th, 2021 at 12:28pm	Print Post
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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 357 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #3 - Jun 20^th, 2021 at 12:29pm	Print Post
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MT Chambers Full Member Offline Posts: 141 Location: Foam Lake, Saskatchewan Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2011	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #4 - Jun 20^th, 2021 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	The barrel appears to be badly twisted on the outside, don't know if Pope did this on his barrels.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16269 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #5 - Jun 20^th, 2021 at 7:01pm	Print Post
	Think the "twisted" look is an optical illusion. But it also appears the barrel has been threaded off center to make a CF firing pin strike the rim of the .22RF. Something the best old school gunsmiths did when using CF breech blocks with RF barrels.

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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 357 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #6 - Jun 20^th, 2021 at 8:55pm	Print Post
	The twisted look happened when I re-sized the pictures. It is an optical illusion.


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OLD TUCK Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 469 Location: Middleborough MA Joined: Oct 5^th, 2017	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #7 - Jun 21^st, 2021 at 5:17pm	Print Post
	Offset Bore/chamber. Val I agree the bore is offsett. The Bore looks like he took it up to 12:00 so that would mean it strikes on the bottom of the Rim. Does that seem right to you? FITZ, OLD TUCK.


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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 357 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #8 - Jun 21^st, 2021 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	The bore is offset and the firing pin strikes at 6 o'clock. Any speculation about who might have made it would be welcome.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16269 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #9 - Jun 21^st, 2021 at 9:05pm	Print Post
	Yes, they always go either 12 or 6 o'clock, as 9 and 3 would not work. I have one that is also set up for 12 o'clock strike. Guessing more were than 6 o'clock, as that might make the barrel sit above the receiver? Neat part is you could still screw a CF barrel on, and have both work with the same firing pin!

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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1314 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #10 - Jun 21^st, 2021 at 10:33pm	Print Post
	Off-center reboring was also sometimes done for the opposite reason. For example, I have a Stevens .22RF barrel rebored off-center by Pope so that the unmolested rimfire firing pin now discharges .32 Ideal shells just fine. Bill Lawrence


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16269 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #11 - Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 10:30am	Print Post
	MrTipUp wrote on Jun 21^st, 2021 at 10:33pm: Off-center reboring was also sometimes done for the opposite reason. For example, I have a Stevens .22RF barrel rebored off-center by Pope so that the unmolested rimfire firing pin now discharges .32 Ideal shells just fine. Bill Lawrence Does the RF pin leave a rectangle strike on the primers?

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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 357 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #12 - Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	Mine leaves a half moon strike.


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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 357 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #13 - Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 5:18pm	Print Post
	Maybe a better picture.


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1314 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Possible Pope Krag .22 Reply #14 - Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 12:59am	Print Post
	Does the RF pin leave a rectangle strike on the primers? The things I'm sometimes asked. Anyway, I don't have any case with spent primers and it's been a long time since I've handled that rifle - a tip-up model - so I had to go check. And, yes, Vall, the firing pin's nose is indeed a very narrow rectangle, almost blade-like. Is that in some way significant? Bill Lawrence


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