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Old Soldier Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 361 Location: North Pole, Alaska Joined: Oct 17^th, 2015	Re: Get the lead out Reply #45 - Jun 25^th, 2021 at 11:58am	Print Post
	An Update. I tried acetone, no joy. Tried unique and grits, no joy,I soaked the bore for a week in Kriol, no joy. I tried Shooters choice lead out, it works kinda.Not as good as CR-10. I've used a copper scrubber, it worked some. I've used 000 steel wool on a bore brush, works, but not as good as a stainless steel bore brush. I bought mercury. Filled the barrel, and let stand an hour. Used Barnes CR-10 and got lots of black patches. Soaked a patch, run it thru, repeat, stainless steel bore brush with CR-10 on it scrub, let soak, repeat. Filled bore again with mercury, let stand an hour, repeated the scrubbing process. Scrubbed for 3 hours yesterday with CR-10. Lots of black patches. Still plenty of visible lead. Filled with mercury and let it soak all night. Scrubbed for 2 hours this morning. Lots of black patches, still lots of visible lead in the bore, less, but lots. If the mercury isn't eating it, maybe it isn't lead. Maybe tin or silver? What if I take a torch and heat the barrel until warm to the touch? At least I can see improvement. By the end of summer, it could be clean if I work a couple of hours a day. Joy!

	"White man have very strong Medicine. Shoot today maybeso kill you tomorrow." Esa-Tai Commanche warrior
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Longdistance1 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 468 Location: Amidon, ND Joined: Feb 11^th, 2013	Re: Get the lead out Reply #46 - Jun 26^th, 2021 at 11:01am	Print Post
	Make sure the bore has no oil or anything else in it before using the mercury. I would blast it with some 3M brake-cleaner a couple of times, fill it with mercury and go fishing for the weekend. Mercury won't hurt steel but it takes a wile to eat the lead. LD1


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yamoon Frequent Elocutionist Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 1006 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: Get the lead out Reply #47 - Jun 26^th, 2021 at 11:40am	Print Post
	Working in the refrigeration industry for many years, we used a solvent called Virginia 10. There some other brands. It removes all oil quickly. It evaporates very quickly, so wet the patch & don’t be slow about swabbing the bore. It or an equivalent is available at all HVACR wholesalers. Mike


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Dusty Texian Junior Member Offline Posts: 58 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2013	Re: Get the lead out Reply #48 - Jun 26^th, 2021 at 3:52pm	Print Post
	Old Soldier wrote on Jun 25^th, 2021 at 11:58am: An Update. I tried acetone, no joy. Tried unique and grits, no joy,I soaked the bore for a week in Kriol, no joy. I tried Shooters choice lead out, it works kinda.Not as good as CR-10. I've used a copper scrubber, it worked some. I've used 000 steel wool on a bore brush, works, but not as good as a stainless steel bore brush. I bought mercury. Filled the barrel, and let stand an hour. Used Barnes CR-10 and got lots of black patches. Soaked a patch, run it thru, repeat, stainless steel bore brush with CR-10 on it scrub, let soak, repeat. Filled bore again with mercury, let stand an hour, repeated the scrubbing process. Scrubbed for 3 hours yesterday with CR-10. Lots of black patches. Still plenty of visible lead. Filled with mercury and let it soak all night. Scrubbed for 2 hours this morning. Lots of black patches, still lots of visible lead in the bore, less, but lots. If the mercury isn't eating it, maybe it isn't lead. Maybe tin or silver? What if I take a torch and heat the barrel until warm to the touch? At least I can see improvement. By the end of summer, it could be clean if I work a couple of hours a day. Joy! I am doing the same thing with an old Winchester barrel that dates back to 1884 . Tried a few different lead out products with little success . After soaking overnight in Kroil , Lead out , PB Blaster , Hoppes 9 , Butchs bore and a few home brews the best I get is a few black-gray patch's after soaking overnight and then scrubbing with a very tight copper scrubber wrapped bore brush . A few days ago I tried a mixture equal parts Automatic Transmission fluid and B-12 Chemtool . ( B-12 Chemtool is sold at Auto Supply stores ) After a wet swabbing with this mixture and then left overnight with the ends plugged , because the Chemtool will evaporate real quick if the ends are not plugged . I use a paper towel wad - plug on breech and muzzle . I scrub with the copper wrapped brush until I tire several hundred strokes . Then wipe and started getting silver specks on the patch again along with black /grey carbon . Its slow but the Automatic Transmission fluid and B-12 Chemtool is working better than the other fluids I have tried . Like you at this rate I'll be at it a few months , but will not stop until its all out . Its personal now .


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yamoon Frequent Elocutionist Offline NRA Life, ASSRA , GGCA, MCA Posts: 1006 Location: Junction City Kansas Joined: Feb 11^th, 2012	Re: Get the lead out Reply #49 - Jun 26^th, 2021 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	I am considering trying polyol ester (POE) oil, it is a good solvent. It is very hydroscopic. I’m desperate. I’m not sure the deposits are lead, they are small raised lumps in both lands & grooves. They must be very hard as 0000 steel wool does not seem to effect them. Mike


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Old Soldier Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 361 Location: North Pole, Alaska Joined: Oct 17^th, 2015	Re: Get the lead out Reply #50 - Aug 8^th, 2021 at 12:54pm	Print Post
	I'm still scrubbing. Any of you guys had success?

	"White man have very strong Medicine. Shoot today maybeso kill you tomorrow." Esa-Tai Commanche warrior
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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Get the lead out Reply #51 - Aug 8^th, 2021 at 2:28pm	Print Post
	Wow thought you had it resolved by now and are you sure that it is actually lead it should have been long gone by now.

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Grumpy gumpy Full Member Offline Posts: 214 Location: australia Joined: Jul 6^th, 2016	Re: Get the lead out Reply #52 - Aug 10^th, 2021 at 7:35pm	Print Post
	You may want to find someone with a bore scope to have a proper look at what’s in there Gumpy


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AJ Full Member Offline Posts: 218 Joined: Aug 25^th, 2011	Re: Get the lead out Reply #53 - Aug 10^th, 2021 at 8:18pm	Print Post
	I don’t know if it makes a difference or not, but when I used mercury in the past, I would only fill the bore about 1/3rd full. I’d then shake it back and forth rapidly for a minute or two and all the lead would be dissolved. It never failed.


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burntwater Oldtimer Offline Posts: 598 Location: Michigan Joined: Feb 5^th, 2018	Re: Get the lead out Reply #54 - Aug 11^th, 2021 at 11:54am	Print Post
	Years ago I used mercury in my shop to clean Hi Standard and S&W 41 muzzle brakes. The lead deposits in these brakes was very difficult to remove with special tools then a friend of mine who worked for Pachmayr told me how they used mercury on barrels etc. I just dropped the brakes in a beaker overnight and I’d have a little blackish residue but they were lead free. I cleaned several rimfire barrels by stopping the muzzle filling and let set overnight. But if your barrel is copper fouled or gilded then mercury won’t do it. Copper fouling is best handled with the old ‘ Foul-out ‘ units or reverse electro-plating. Any chemicals or acids that dissolve copper will also attack steel. Good luck


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CarlS Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Location: NC Joined: Jul 13^th, 2013	Re: Get the lead out Reply #55 - Nov 4^th, 2021 at 9:33am	Print Post
	A mixture I have used is 50-50 white distilled vinegar and hydrogen peroxide. Plug barrel fill with mixture let soak 30-45 minutes, drain and run a dry patch through, repeat if needed. Oil barrel when finished. When I first heard of this mix I was unsure if it could work, using two things that can be used in your mouth! I mixed a small beaker full and dropped in a .38 wad cutter as soon as the slug hit the bottom it started bubbling. After about 10 minutes the slug was 20 gr. lighter.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18051 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Get the lead out Reply #56 - Nov 4^th, 2021 at 7:33pm	Print Post
	About the acetone/ATF mix. I've used it for a very long time to soak parts that were rusted up, and it works for that. It wont do anything to get the lead out of a barrel though.

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Old Soldier Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 361 Location: North Pole, Alaska Joined: Oct 17^th, 2015	Re: Get the lead out Reply #57 - Nov 6^th, 2021 at 10:07pm	Print Post
	JLewis, I'm still scrubbing, and still getting BLACK patches. I have it down from big globs to just badly leaded. Don't know what was in those bullets, but it is hard. Ordered some brass wool, as tearing apart a brass dish pan scrubber and wrapping the stuff around a brush helped more than anything. I've used patches so tight I've split the end of my $40 cleaning rod. Used 100's of patches, almost 2 bottles of solvent, wasted several bore brushes, steel wool, you name it. I'll try vinegar and hydrogen peroxide next. What the hey.

	"White man have very strong Medicine. Shoot today maybeso kill you tomorrow." Esa-Tai Commanche warrior
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yort Participating Member Offline Posts: 18 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Joined: Nov 6^th, 2019	Re: Get the lead out Reply #58 - Nov 7^th, 2021 at 1:11am	Print Post
	Old Soldier wrote on Nov 6^th, 2021 at 10:07pm: JLewis, I'm still scrubbing, and still getting BLACK patches. I have it down from big globs to just badly leaded. Don't know what was in those bullets, but it is hard. Ordered some brass wool, as tearing apart a brass dish pan scrubber and wrapping the stuff around a brush helped more than anything. I've used patches so tight I've split the end of my $40 cleaning rod. Used 100's of patches, almost 2 bottles of solvent, wasted several bore brushes, steel wool, you name it. I'll try vinegar and hydrogen peroxide next. What the hey. I use the mixture of Vinager and Hydrogen Peroxide to clean my 22lr suppressor and it works wonders. But the devolved lead can easily leach through your skin so be very carful and wear good gloves. When you finish with the solution your should neutralize it with washing soda. The lead will fall out of suspension and is nice and shinny in the bottom or the container.


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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4232 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: Get the lead out Reply #59 - Nov 7^th, 2021 at 9:09am	Print Post
	The most effective solvent I have used to get extreme leading out of barrels was KleenBore's No. 10 Copper Cutter. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Unfortunately it is no longer available. I am saving my last supply for extremely leaded barrels. It worked far better than Hoppe's 9, Shiloh Sharps Bore Cleaner, CR10, Kroil Oil, Shooter's Choice Lead Remover, MPro7, Sweet's 7.62 Solvent, Break Free CLP or Ed's Red.
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