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Reply #15 - May 30th, 2021 at 5:26pm
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I bought a Waage pot 8 or 9 years ago and have been very happy with it.  As I recall, i couldn't find it in their catalog and had to call them.  They said it was 
# K4757.   115v, 88w, 20 lbs.  Don't remember what the price was.

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Reply #16 - May 30th, 2021 at 11:17pm
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Thanks for your reply, Wayne. 
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Reply #17 - Jun 17th, 2021 at 2:10pm
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I’ve noticed that my castings seem to come out better when the pot isn’t completely full.  I use the bottom pour feature and if the pot is full, the melt flys out the bottom, but with about 10-12 lbs, it drops in the mold very nicely.
I’m wondering if the melt enters the mold to quickly, it doesn’t allow the air to uniformly escape.
Anyone else experience this?  Undecided
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Re: Lyman Mag 25 lead furnace
Reply #18 - Jun 17th, 2021 at 2:55pm
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4570mike wrote on Jun 17th, 2021 at 2:10pm:
I’ve noticed that my castings seem to come out better when the pot isn’t completely full.  I use the bottom pour feature and if the pot is full, the melt flys out the bottom, but with about 10-12 lbs, it drops in the mold very nicely.
I’m wondering if the melt enters the mold to quickly, it doesn’t allow the air to uniformly escape.
Anyone else experience this?  Undecided
Mike.


Mike,

When casting handgun bullets using a bottom pour pot I've had the same experienced now and then.  Reducing the pour rate solves the problem.  Even with dip casting or making a chamber cast, if the alloy is poured too fast, many time the bullet or casting will not fully fill out.  I don't believe it's an air escape problem but cause by turbulence due the fast pour as the alloy quickly cools.

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Reply #19 - Jun 17th, 2021 at 5:11pm
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The problem with bottom pouring for myself was not being able to achieve any consistently and that had a direct ill effect on none consistent match accuracy. If one stops and thinks about it bottom pouring pretty much relies on maintaining a consistent head pressure and it alone as most of you might know the weight of the alloy in the pot / head pressure is also consistently changing. And if you try to hold the mould from being in direct contact with a bottom pour spout the results are even more typically allot worse in regards to trying to achieve any acceptable amount of weight variations for achieving the best in match accuracy. 
  

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Reply #20 - Jun 18th, 2021 at 9:06am
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I was casting three different sizes yesterday. When I began, the pot had about 12 lbs. in it. The first were 370 gr. 38’s. Cast about a hundred and many didn’t make consistent weight (+/- 0.5 gr).  A 210 gr. .32 cal. Was next and these came out with fewer rejections. Last were 355 gr. .40 cal slugs. There was a bit more than one inch depth of melt in the pot. These had very few rejections out of the hundred + cast.
I found the mold does not have to be up tight with the spout. I keep the sprew plate about 1/8” below. However, I always let the melt drop directly into the sprew hole and not touch anything else. I leave a generous “blob” on the top.
This and a very hot sprew plate seem to contribute to very consistent slugs. I do a visual while casting. All are weighed (and viewed again). 
I judge a good casting session based on the number of rejections and it looks like I’ll be doing more within a “short” pot  Wink
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Re: Lyman Mag 25 lead furnace
Reply #21 - Jun 18th, 2021 at 7:33pm
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First off I don’t have a clear cut answer regarding the bottom vs ladle pour performance problems. I did however  breach the subject with my wife who has numerous years as a metallographer working with several metallurgists in the aerospace industries. Anyway she wasn’t in the mood for instructional sessions today but shared a little bit as it appears filling intricate sharp moulds with molten metals has a few rules that are all about surface tension and not head pressure. 

I started looking into this field but soon realized the water was getting too deep for me. Surface tension, fluidity factors and a lot more above my pay scale all explains why ladles can out perform nozzles and this and that.  Look it up guys it’s great reading.
  
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Reply #22 - Jun 18th, 2021 at 8:48pm
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Thanks to all of those who helped me to be able to cast Ladle poured bullets. 
Prior to and not being able to figure it out on my own and to say the least none of them / ladle poured bullets were not even worth trying to take and to try and shoot on a competitive level. Thanks to Fitz Old Tuck on this site and Charlie Dell and Barry Darr. I eventually learned and it was not an easy hands on learning experience at that time by any means.
  

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