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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 583 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	307 winchester May 15^th, 2021 at 1:14pm	Print Post
	has anyone done any shooting with this case or developed a wildcat on it in a larger caliber ?


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art_ruggiero Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1158 Location: CT Joined: Dec 14^th, 2008	Re: 307 winchester Reply #1 - May 15^th, 2021 at 2:38pm	Print Post
	isn't that just a rimmed 308 ? art


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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 583 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: 307 winchester Reply #2 - May 15^th, 2021 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	Yes, it's sister is the 356 a rimmed 358.


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Bulseyetom Oldtimer Offline Posts: 982 Location: Santa Maria, Ca Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Re: 307 winchester Reply #3 - May 15^th, 2021 at 5:10pm	Print Post
	Since brass is non-existent for it, I would prefer to stick with the 30-40 brass as a basis for a wildcat unless I needed the stronger case, and then I think I would go with the 444 for a parent case. The 307 was doomed from the start as the day of the lever action rifle dominating the scene was over by the time it came to being, just like the 7-30 Waters. The 225 Winchester was another round that just didn't ever find a following big enough to keep it alive and it sure made a good combination in stronger single shot actions. I understand that Winchester was also looking at a 40 caliber to go with the 307 and 356 but the lagging sales killed it before it was marketed. Tom


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3935 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: 307 winchester Reply #4 - May 15^th, 2021 at 5:14pm	Print Post
	Oooooooo. 40 cal in lever action! (405Win is MY favorite! ) a shorter version would be excellent!

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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1117 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: 307 winchester Reply #5 - May 16^th, 2021 at 9:46am	Print Post
	Shorter 40 for lever action - - 40-60 maynard and 40-50 Sharps wpould both be great. George


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16831 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 307 winchester Reply #6 - May 16^th, 2021 at 12:00pm	Print Post
	Cat_Whisperer wrote on May 15^th, 2021 at 5:14pm: Oooooooo. 40 cal in lever action! (405Win is MY favorite! ) a shorter version would be excellent! A shorter version was made, but before the .405 existed. The .40-63/70 Ballard, and the .40-70SS are both very similar, but shorter cases than the .405 Win. I use .405 brass for both of these calibers in my single shots. I use .30-40 Krag, and .303 British brass chopped very short to make my .40-50SS cases.

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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1786 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: 307 winchester Reply #7 - May 17^th, 2021 at 9:43am	Print Post
	Not to mention the 40-65Win. The little cartridge that could. Brass available from Starline and also easily made from 45-70 brass. beltfed/arnie


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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 583 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: 307 winchester Reply #8 - May 17^th, 2021 at 11:11am	Print Post
	I was thinking more 357 or 375.


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Insert Caddy Participating Member Offline Posts: 28 Joined: Jan 27^th, 2010	Re: 307 winchester Reply #9 - May 17^th, 2021 at 1:03pm	Print Post
	Don Bower (deceased) from Auroa, Colorado developed a whole line of wildcats on the 307 Win. case. He orginally developed these for the Thompson Contender but used them in some Ruger # 1 rifles for 1000 yd. shooting. I had them in 22, 7mm and 30 caliber. The case was blown out somewhat straight with a 40 degree shoulder. The dies were shortened to bump the shoulder back about .005 head spacing on the rim. Bullets were seated to touch the land. I only have one now which is the 30 Alaskan Bower. I kept it because it was so easy to form brass. One only had to drop a 307 in and fire it like an Ackley. Hunted with it for several years it took elk, deer, antelope and once got a turkey with it. Don and his brother did long range shooting with these wildcats. I took some lessons from them and have shot some amazing groups at 500 meters with a 14 inch Contender. Don was instrumental in Burris developing the 10x pistol scope which we used extensively. Hated to see the two brothers pass,


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2007 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: 307 winchester Reply #10 - May 17^th, 2021 at 3:30pm	Print Post
	Don was my son's coach when he ran the Junior League program at Cherry Creek range in Aurora some 30 plus years ago. A good man, who encouraged and dedicated effort to the shooting sports for the young. Saddened to hear of his passing.

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CharleHunter Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 364 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2019	Re: 307 winchester Reply #11 - May 18^th, 2021 at 4:02am	Print Post
	Don't forget the various European Rimmed cases such as 7x 57R, 7x 65R, 8x57R, 9.3x74 etc as they may be viable to use for Wildcatting


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11722 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 307 winchester Reply #12 - May 19^th, 2021 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	Insert Caddy wrote on May 17^th, 2021 at 1:03pm: Don Bower (deceased) from Auroa, Colorado developed a whole line of wildcats on the 307 Win. case. He orginally developed these for the Thompson Contender but used them in some Ruger # 1 rifles for 1000 yd. shooting. I had them in 22, 7mm and 30 caliber. The case was blown out somewhat straight with a 40 degree shoulder. The dies were shortened to bump the shoulder back about .005 head spacing on the rim. Bullets were seated to touch the land. I only have one now which is the 30 Alaskan Bower. I kept it because it was so easy to form brass. One only had to drop a 307 in and fire it like an Ackley. Hunted with it for several years it took elk, deer, antelope and once got a turkey with it. Don and his brother did long range shooting with these wildcats. I took some lessons from them and have shot some amazing groups at 500 meters with a 14 inch Contender. Don was instrumental in Burris developing the 10x pistol scope which we used extensively. Hated to see the two brothers pass, Picture posted for insertcaddy

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11722 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 307 winchester Reply #13 - May 19^th, 2021 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	30 Alaskan Bower made from 307 Win. Beside .243 Win.

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gemihur Participating Member Offline Posts: 28 Joined: Jan 11^th, 2014	Re: 307 winchester Reply #14 - Jun 21^st, 2021 at 7:03pm	Print Post
	Westerner, You were one of the lucky ones to have been personally familiar with Don. The rest of us can only read about his work. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Thank you for sharing, Jimmy


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