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Hi Everyone, new to Forum. help identify my 44 1/2
May 8th, 2021 at 10:14am
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I will included lots of pics. so from what I have learned so far my receiver s/n 3224 DST was made 1903-1906ish?  It's marked with 44 1/2, EX and the O.  The barrel is a 34inch 22lr that has been relined marked J. Stevens A & T  s/n 5063. The receiver was deep engraving on it.  One side is the Indiana state seal the other side is the Ohio state seal.  This has to mean something to someone.  The engraving is beautiful and there is what I think is a engravers name in maybe Japanese? All the screws are engraved including the two on the block that you cant even see when the gun is together.  The wood has is marked E. K. 11-71'.  I'm guess someone fitted new wood and that's the person and the date. The gun has a Stevens 104 Wind Gauge Vernier Tang Sight in back. Its missing the two nuts for the wind gauge part. I have a 2-56 tap coming so I can machine a couple new ones. I need dimensions if someone has one they can measure and maybe a couple of up close pictures.  There is a odd little sight in one dovetail and a 2nd dovetail was cut, then later filled that went thru b
arrel marking stamp.  So here is the Question I have, 

-Does anyone recognized the engravers mark?   
-Does anyone have any thought on meaning of the two state seals?
-Did Stevens reline barrels back in the day? If so how do I know? 
-Does the 22L.R. mark on the barrel look like an original Stevens stamp?
-If it was a original 34" barrel in 22L.R. its pretty rare, right?

Sure  I will think of more.  Thanks for any input, Chris

  
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Re: Hi Everyone, new to Forum. help identify my 44 1/2
Reply #1 - May 8th, 2021 at 10:16am
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Reply #3 - May 8th, 2021 at 12:08pm
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Welcome! Interesting rifle. The lettering on the barrel looks like Stevens, except where the extra dovetail blank is. I would think a 34” barrel would be pretty scarce. I don’t believe Stevens lined barrels, perhaps E. K. In 11-1971 did the barrel lining? The main thing that jumps out at me is that the action serial number and the barrel serial number doesn’t match.
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Reply #4 - May 8th, 2021 at 1:32pm
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A very charming rifle and allot of work went into it. It makes one wonder why they didn't go ahead and spend the time to also clock all of the screws. 
You have one very nice rifle and one that should provide you with allot of enjoyment over the years. In regards to the barrel length a friend of mine had an original Stevens with a 36 inch barrel installed in it. Back in the day one could easily get a rifle with custom length barrels such as these from the various firearms manufacturers at that time.
  

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Reply #5 - May 8th, 2021 at 3:15pm
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Time is money John. Perhaps after lining the barrel and the extensive engraving, there was none left for making and clocking screws?
  

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Reply #6 - May 8th, 2021 at 4:11pm
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Kyairgunner, could you post a picture of the breech end of your barrel, and a close up picture of your tang sight?
  
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Reply #7 - May 8th, 2021 at 7:53pm
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I will post pics of sight later tonight. I have had the gun about 3 weeks and have shot about 1k rounds thru it already.  Shoot a couple silhouette matches with it today.  Like the old gun.  It needs a taller front sight on it tho.
  
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Reply #8 - May 8th, 2021 at 8:13pm
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here is the pics of the sights.  My tap will be here tomorrow so i can make the miss parts.
  
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Reply #9 - May 8th, 2021 at 9:34pm
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Looks like you have a Stevens wind gauge vernier rear and #210 globe front sight.
  
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Reply #10 - May 11th, 2021 at 10:16pm
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Beautiful and interesting rifle. Wish it could talk so you could get the whole story behind it.
  
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Reply #11 - May 15th, 2021 at 9:42am
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There has to be a story behind the engraving.  I would like to figure out who the engraver was.  I  will have to post some pics on some of the engraving forums.  Started making the missing nuts for my rear sight.  Got the first one made but broke the tap.  Should have ordered more than one tap.
  
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Re: Hi Everyone, new to Forum. help identify my 44 1/2
Reply #12 - May 15th, 2021 at 12:18pm
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Buy two extra taps, use plenty of thread cutting oil, and clear your chips more frequently that you would with a larger thread.

Also, I'm much intrigued by the oriental characters behind the trigger, which I presume are the engraver's "chop".  Surely someone on one of engraving forums will recognize that mark.

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Reply #13 - May 15th, 2021 at 5:20pm
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Picture of lower tang appears to have oriental markings. Japanese engraved?
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Reply #14 - May 16th, 2021 at 4:18pm
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Hi bill, I went pretty slow. Cleaned chips after one turn. Real cheap tap. Lots of flex. Ordered two more taps. Should have thought to order several taps.
  
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