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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1493 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Mystery single shot. May 7^th, 2021 at 9:48pm	Print Post
	I have a friend who is trying to find some information on a custom single shot handgun he purchased at Rock Island Auctions many years ago. On the receiver it is marked "Wichita" and has wichita sights and on the barrel it is marked "50 cal" WHB BMF. The chamber is a bottle neck round with a long freebore to the rifling. The bolt is of the "drop in" style and is cut for a rimless round such as an acp round. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. JMH


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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #1 - May 7^th, 2021 at 10:21pm	Print Post
	whb = Wichita heavy barrel bmf = big mother f must be a wildcat, maybe only one produced. Does it look like the chamber is cut for a belted magnum? maybe a 458 win mag to 50 cal?

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #2 - May 7^th, 2021 at 10:31pm	Print Post
	They also made front mechanical benchrest rests as well as their own single shot pistols back around the 70's. The first front rest that I owned for competitive shooting was one that they made.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1937 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #3 - May 7^th, 2021 at 11:46pm	Print Post
	Wichita built actions and rifles primarily for short range benchrest, and varmint shooting. They built one action that used a bolt that accepted a shell holder to capture the cartridge. They were somewhat popular for a time in the 70s. I am not sure what you describe as a drop in bolt is, possibly the shell holder action? Some competitive rifles were built on his actions for the above, and also for silhouette shooting.

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1493 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #4 - May 8^th, 2021 at 5:34am	Print Post
	You remove the bolt and "drop in" the round much as a shell holder would work. I forgot but the action has three locking lugs. JMH


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1493 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #5 - May 8^th, 2021 at 5:38am	Print Post
	Rebel... The chamber is straight wall till it goes into the bottleneck. The whole thing kind of reminds me of the Beowolf round. A big fat cartridge with a rimless base... JMH


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1937 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #6 - May 8^th, 2021 at 3:27pm	Print Post
	Sad to hear. Met him at Tulsa back in the eighties, in fact bought a Schultz and Larsen single shot bolt action receiver from him there. Nice fellow to chat with.

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Red Cent Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 316 Location: Benton, KY byway of WV, VA, NC Joined: Dec 25^th, 2016	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #7 - May 8^th, 2021 at 4:21pm	Print Post
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tim_s Oldtimer Offline Posts: 816 Location: 13066 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2006	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #8 - May 8^th, 2021 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	As said, a shellholder action, the lower cost version of their IHMSA silouhette pistol. I believe this was their proprietary chambering.....like a 30 Whisper only 50.

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1493 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #9 - May 13^th, 2021 at 9:14pm	Print Post
	Found out the gun was built by "Radke Custom Guns" but can't find anything on him. Ring a bell to anyone? JMH


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ratseye Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Eastern, PA Joined: Feb 28^th, 2017	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #10 - May 14^th, 2021 at 6:00am	Print Post
	That's an interesting one. To state the obvious you need to slug the bore and cast the chamber to get a real idea of what it could be. The bottle neck throws me off. Good luck, ratseye


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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1493 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #11 - May 14^th, 2021 at 9:24pm	Print Post
	I never have good results when I try that. My stuff always seems to get stuck. I use the Cerrosafe material. Any tips on making a good cast that won't get stuck? JMH


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1937 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #12 - May 15^th, 2021 at 12:16am	Print Post
	I buy chamber casting alloy from Rotometals in San Leandro, Ca. It is much less expensive and has always worked well for me. A very light coating of oil or graphite in the chamber seems to help. I have done many bolt gun chambers that are more difficult than single shot actions as the chamber is not as accessible as a single shot chamber. Over filling is usually the culprit, and the casting material flows where it is not wanted. Pour very slowly. When you plug the bore prior to pouring, push the patch close to the throat so that you don't engage more of the rifling than necessary, as that can make removing the casting more difficult also. The folks, at Rotometals have been very helpful so a call to them may provide more answers or suggestions.

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chipmaker Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 339 Location: san diego Joined: Sep 24^th, 2007	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #13 - May 15^th, 2021 at 11:18am	Print Post
	JMH, In addition to a light coat of oil in the chamber and checking that the material doesn't flow into areas, that would lock the casting in place, I've found that you will do better knocking the casting out, as soon as it hardens. If you wait too long and it gets stuck, you may need to heat the barrel, just hot enough to have the casting flow out and try again. Otto


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1937 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Mystery single shot. Reply #14 - May 15^th, 2021 at 2:09pm	Print Post
	Chipmaker is right, in fact on their (Rotometal) website there is a chart that shows the contraction/expansion factor. One does have to wait till the alloy has solidified before pounding away. Search for chamber casting alloy.

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