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ballardhepburnmich ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 598 Location: Scotts,mi. Joined: May 20^th, 2015	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #45 - Mar 3^rd, 2021 at 9:44pm	Print Post
	John, when did Roger build carpenters hammers, just curious? Lee Gibbs


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #46 - Mar 4^th, 2021 at 10:30am	Print Post
	I bought my first one I believe around 1995 Lee and my last one around 2006 if memory serves me right. And I gave it to my son in law.

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ballardhepburnmich ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 598 Location: Scotts,mi. Joined: May 20^th, 2015	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #47 - Mar 4^th, 2021 at 9:43pm	Print Post
	Thanks, john


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #48 - Mar 5^th, 2021 at 11:31am	Print Post
	You are welcome Lee and I believe I had the hammer head weight wrong and it was 14 ounces and not 20. Fatigue factor was about zero and it took one tap to start a 16d GV nail and one swing to drive it home. Also had a slot on the top and magnet to hold the head of a nail so one did not have to get on ladder for up to an 8ft reach to start a nail and very well thought out. It was also investment cast and the price with tax was right at about $100.00 ea.

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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 542 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #49 - Mar 5^th, 2021 at 5:28pm	Print Post
	How about you all take your hammers and build a bridge back to the subject.


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1314 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #50 - Mar 5^th, 2021 at 10:42pm	Print Post
	Droll, scharfe, very droll; but also spot on! Bill Lawrence


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #51 - Mar 6^th, 2021 at 9:37am	Print Post
	It is a part of the subject and about hammer speed and not the mass igniting the primer with the hammer shown. And an answer to a question.

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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 542 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #52 - Mar 6^th, 2021 at 10:30am	Print Post
	All wonderful information Sir. Even more so if the rifle in question has such a hammer.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16271 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #53 - Mar 6^th, 2021 at 10:38am	Print Post
	The framing hammer discussion has very little to do with rifles, or this rifle.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #54 - Mar 7^th, 2021 at 9:31am	Print Post
	There was a question asked about the Singer rifle hammer needing more hammer spring pressure and I was explaining to the gentleman why it should not. By using my hammer and a golf club head as an example. So it was actually about the Singer rifle and the best way I knew how to explain it was not about the mass but the additional speed of the hammer that still will ignite the primer. And then Lee had a question in regards to Ruger Firearms making a framing hammer of which they did and it too was firearms related.
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Amoretti Full Member Offline Posts: 210 Location: thermopolis, Wy Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2009	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #55 - Mar 7^th, 2021 at 10:40am	Print Post
	I think what JLewis is explaining is that force equals mass times velocity squared. So I guess that means the velocity of the hammer is lots more important than the mass, applies to our bullets too, of course.


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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 542 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #56 - Mar 7^th, 2021 at 11:19am	Print Post
	This is exactly what I mean. Every time I see a new post on a subject that I started I expect to learn something. When it goes off on a tangent who knows, sometimes it never comes back. The Singer stuff is very helpful. A physics lesson ? It's force = 1/2 mass x velocity (squared) or force = mass x acceleration


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2238 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Hartford Pope rifle Reply #57 - Mar 7^th, 2021 at 12:34pm	Print Post
	You guys are leaving yourselves wide open for another lecture. Amoretti is correct except it is energy, not force. Assume the energy in the main spring is constant, velocity would vary with the square root of the mass. Reduce the mass by 25% and the velocity would increase by 13%. Yes, we are off topic. Chuck


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