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John Boy Ex Member	Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Feb 18^th, 2021 at 3:26pm	Print Post
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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1616 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #1 - Feb 18^th, 2021 at 9:31pm	Print Post
	Wow..hes got it figured out!


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Red Cent Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 316 Location: Benton, KY byway of WV, VA, NC Joined: Dec 25^th, 2016	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #2 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 1:44pm	Print Post
	The test is interesting. Especially shooting those groups with those rifles. The 10-22 is a rifle made for the masses. Large chamber, lots of headspace, barrel droop, @&^) trigger, and bedded like a teeter totter. Put a good barrel on it (floated), drop in an adjustable sear, pin the firing pin, lock down the rear of the action, and you have a good start. The velocity tests are suspect. This is the only one I have seen that does not show a "sweet spot" that will reflect a gain in velocity. Usually around 20" to 22". After 22", friction will take its toll. Paco Kelley of lever gun fame sells an interesting innovation that "rearranges" a 22 bullet for exceptional accuracy/groups.

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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2995 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #3 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 3:58pm	Print Post
	I have one of the Paco devices. He made it with 2 extra large sizes for me when I was messing about with an original Krag Gallery Practice Rifle. I also have a Waltz die set. If you combine the two, you have a very interesting tool for messing about with .22 rimfire ammo. Like everything else about rimfires, changing bullet diameters may or may not work depending on the individual rifle. I've never messed about very much with altered bullets in a single shot. But in my 513T Remington, they were miserable failures. In my M2 Springfield, most of the combinations I tried out-shot the factory control ammo. The Krag GPR had, IIRC, a .2261" groove diameter, was chambered for .22 Extra Long. The ammo resized with both the Paco tool and the Waltz die shot better than the factory stuff, but nothing shot as well as CCI Stingers. Doesn't say much for my experiment.
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CW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 529 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #4 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 7:02pm	Print Post
	Cbashooter wrote on Feb 18^th, 2021 at 9:31pm: Wow..hes got it figured out! Maybe I should be more wowed - for us in the peanut gallery, what does he have figured out?


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1616 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #5 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 7:26pm	Print Post
	CW wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 7:02pm: Cbashooter wrote on Feb 18^th, 2021 at 9:31pm: Wow..hes got it figured out! Maybe I should be more wowed - for us in the peanut gallery, what does he have figured out? I guess my sarcasm wasn't clear😀


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #6 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 8:09pm	Print Post
	Going back 6 years or so I made a .22 swaging tool like the Waltz tool. It sure did help, along with weight-sorting, to cut groups from a stock 10-22 in half, but only for cheap commodity ammo like Thunderbolt and Auto Match. Did nothing but ruin good target ammo. Also did little good for any ammo used in my good Ballard, which has a tight chamber.

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #7 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 8:28pm	Print Post
	So, I did watch his video. The Dunning-Kruger Effect sprang to mind halfway through.

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1616 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #8 - Feb 19^th, 2021 at 8:30pm	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 8:09pm: Going back 6 years or so I made a .22 swaging tool like the Waltz tool. It sure did help, along with weight-sorting, to cut groups from a stock 10-22 in half, but only for cheap commodity ammo like Thunderbolt and Auto Match. Did nothing but ruin good target ammo. Also did little good for any ammo used in my good Ballard, which has a tight chamber. Ya he's using junk ammo in lower end tricked out guns.my Ballard's,Martins,Stevens 44-1/2,Win 52s,and 40x rifles just like quality eley or lapua ammo.no "secrets" Sorting helps sometimes but reading wind trumps all imho "Dunning-Kruger Effect" Love it !!! but I think I have it.


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2995 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #9 - Feb 20^th, 2021 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2021 at 8:09pm: Going back 6 years or so I made a .22 swaging tool like the Waltz tool. It sure did help, along with weight-sorting, to cut groups from a stock 10-22 in half, but only for cheap commodity ammo like Thunderbolt and Auto Match. Did nothing but ruin good target ammo. Also did little good for any ammo used in my good Ballard, which has a tight chamber. That's what Waltz said about it.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #10 - Feb 20^th, 2021 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	The most important aspect of that video is he is out shooting and he appears to be enjoying himself and trying to improve on what his own personal needs might be.

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1616 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #11 - Feb 20^th, 2021 at 4:03pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Feb 20^th, 2021 at 2:40pm: The most important aspect of that video is he is out shooting and he appears to be enjoying himself and trying to improve on what his own personal needs might be. Good point


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jfeldman ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1112 Location: Imperial Beach, Ca Joined: Nov 5^th, 2005	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #12 - Feb 20^th, 2021 at 5:46pm	Print Post
	I can always learn something. Now I know that different manufacturers use different crimps. Or none at all! Regards, Joe


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12273 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #13 - Feb 20^th, 2021 at 8:34pm	Print Post
	jfeldman wrote on Feb 20^th, 2021 at 5:46pm: I can always learn something. Now I know that different manufacturers use different crimps. Or none at all! Regards, Joe I didn't understand why a different crimp would cause more or less bullet jump into the bore. I have to watch the whole video yet.

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CW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 529 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: Unknown 22LR Accuracy Secrets Reply #14 - Feb 26^th, 2021 at 12:38pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Feb 20^th, 2021 at 2:40pm: The most important aspect of that video is he is out shooting and he appears to be enjoying himself and trying to improve on what his own personal needs might be. I'm just getting back to this post. The above is a very good point! No one knows what this young mans future is, but he may well be on his way to a long and in-depth relationship with accurate rifles. After all, it is a journey.


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