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New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Feb 7th, 2021 at 2:16pm
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Has anyone shot one of these~?  Did you find it to be accurate~?  How competitive is it compared to an Anschutz or a Model 52
  
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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #1 - Feb 7th, 2021 at 3:59pm
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Not even close. One might find one that shoots exceptionaly well, but would be the luck of the draw, and quite unlikely, and still would not measure up. Better triggers, barrels, and years of experience building extremely accurate target rifles, add up to excellence. Not to persuade you otherwise, but if you are looking for extreme accuracy in a rimfire rifle, I would encourage you to look at a used rifle like you mentioned. In single shot rifles, one might look for a used prone rifle from one of the better barrel makers built on a Ballard action, or if finances allow, build one from the ground up. Today there are some premium barrel makers and rifle builders that make very accurate single shot rimfire rifles. 
Whatever your decision, I wish you well.
  

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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #2 - Feb 7th, 2021 at 4:03pm
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I shot my two rifles extensively at 50 yards; they would put 10 bullets into .75", but not a lot better than that.   

As said before, you can't compare these to an anschutz.  They compare very favorably to the best of the 10-22's.   

I was shooting "Prove-it" targets, I think for the rimfire forum at the time when I did these.  They beat most all of the 10-22's, but not even close to the match rifles I own, including my Anschutz 64.
  
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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #3 - Feb 7th, 2021 at 4:05pm
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The target you show is very good, and if it were 10, 5 shot groups at 50 yards, then you would have my attention. Again good luck in your quest. Many/most would be very satisfied with the rifle and target you reference.
  

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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #4 - Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:30pm
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my previous post seems to have vanished, but I agree with most of what is said.
If you want a competitive singleshot 22, you might consider a Martini International.
BTW, my Hubalek lowall will shoot the ass off a gnat

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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #5 - Feb 7th, 2021 at 5:54pm
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Well, my experience is a bit different. I have a Winchester-Miroku Low Wall that ranks right up there in accuracy with my M52. (I don't know its vintage, I got it from a friend's estate.) Via its trigger adjustment screw I bottomed it out at a very nice 1 1/2 pound pull (and it survives the jar-off test by banging it on the floor while cocked). I swear, it returns accuracy at 50 yards like the above pic shows at 25 yards, admittedly with Eley Tenex and a Lyman 20x Targetspot instead of the 3-9x Leupold that is its "everyday" scope. It has more sentimental value than anything else but it's accuracy is the icing on the cake.

And it's a pretty fair whacker of garden marauders:

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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #6 - Feb 7th, 2021 at 6:54pm
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Find it's favorite ammo, and it'll shoot well. A trigger job is a good thing to have done.
  
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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 11:30am
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There seems to be some question on the accuracy of these guns.  Comparing them to a good (and I assume custom built) 10-22 is a bit discouraging.  I have a used Miroku low wall I haven't shot yet.  Should I?
  
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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #8 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 12:01pm
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It is interesting the reports back on those miroku built lowalls on various forums isn't really good.
But then when you get to something like a 22 bcpr silhouette match they seem to be really competitive.
Mine likes the SK target rifle ammunition, and I know of 2 or 3 of them that shoot Lapua really well. Also know of a couple of them that shoot Federal Auto match really well to 400 yards. 1 of them also like the RWS, and Eley target.
Boils down to if you take the time and make the effort to find a rifles favorite ammo. Given todays ammo supply situation that's maybe not a real viable option.
  
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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #9 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 2:24pm
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Until I bought my Cody Ballard .22, my most accurate .22RF was my Win. 52, and it would shoot under 1" at 100 yds. Just an amazing rifle that I dearly loved to shoot. My Ballard really doesn't shoot better, but it's easier for me to get the same groups with the DST the Ballard has.
  

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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #10 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 7:38pm
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S99VG wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 11:30am:
There seems to be some question on the accuracy of these guns.  Comparing them to a good (and I assume custom built) 10-22 is a bit discouraging.  I have a used Miroku low wall I haven't shot yet.  Should I?



Of course.  Why would you not use your rifle because someone elses doesn't hold up to what you think it should.  See what yours does, then decide.
  
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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #11 - Feb 8th, 2021 at 7:45pm
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marlinguy wrote on Feb 8th, 2021 at 2:24pm:
Until I bought my Cody Ballard .22, my most accurate .22RF was my Win. 52, and it would shoot under 1" at 100 yds. Just an amazing rifle that I dearly loved to shoot. My Ballard really doesn't shoot better, but it's easier for me to get the same groups with the DST the Ballard has.


Was that my old 52? The one you stole at the Cornfoot show 😀
  
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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #12 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 5:30pm
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Dialed it in on dimes at 50 yards.
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One shot one dime after setting the sights. Pushed the dime through the target.

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Took it to 100 and used a nickel. Had to walk it in with 3 shot groups.

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Standard velocity CCI Target.

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Might have done better with a scope, decent bags and something better than a folding table and a target tacked to a tree.

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Generally good for 7/10 clays at 200 with the sights. I have a couple original Stevens that shoot a bit better, but this one holds it's own.
  
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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #13 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 7:07pm
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I have a couple of friends that shoot the Miroku low walls in 22, they do OK but there is considerable difference between the Miroku and a couple of the original LW's that show up.  One original has a Pope barrel and the other has a RKS so in my opinion the barrel comes in to play for the differences.  Maybe a little more testing of ammo will bring them closer?  Most of the competing was done on "F Class" 50 and 100 yard targets.  Haven't had any Anschutz show up to compete yet, but a Vudoo and a 40X cleaned house with a striker Ballard close behind.  As much as I hate to admit it (being a Winchester and Ballard fan) the Stevens and CPA 44-1/2's seem to consistently beat out the Winchester's in our group.
  

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Re: New Winchester .22 Low Wall
Reply #14 - Feb 12th, 2021 at 11:50am
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GT wrote on Feb 10th, 2021 at 7:07pm:
I have a couple of friends that shoot the Miroku low walls in 22, they do OK but there is considerable difference between the Miroku and a couple of the original LW's that show up.  One original has a Pope barrel and the other has a RKS so in my opinion the barrel comes in to play for the differences.  Maybe a little more testing of ammo will bring them closer?  Most of the competing was done on "F Class" 50 and 100 yard targets.  Haven't had any Anschutz show up to compete yet, but a Vudoo and a 40X cleaned house with a striker Ballard close behind.  As much as I hate to admit it (being a Winchester and Ballard fan) the Stevens and CPA 44-1/2's seem to consistently beat out the Winchester's in our group.   


Has anyone taken a serious look down the barrels of the Mirokus?  With a bore scope, or even with a soft lead slug? Maybe they just need some JB.

Trigger work?  shoot without forearm?  Shooting benchrest has a learning curve with any rifle.
  
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