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chipmaker Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 362 Location: san diego Joined: Sep 24^th, 2007	Stevens M-44 Finishes Dec 19^th, 2020 at 1:34pm	Print Post
	I have a Stevens M-44 that was badly neglected and am in the process of restoring it. The action, lever and butt plate have old CCH with no remaining color and mild pitting. The breechblock, hammer and trigger have old blueing and are in good shape. My question is how Stevens originally finished their M-44 actions. Were all the action parts generally CCH'ed or were some of the parts blued? Thanks in advance for your help. Otto


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Packet Full Member Offline Posts: 113 Location: Port Orange, FL Joined: Jul 18^th, 2019	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #1 - Dec 19^th, 2020 at 1:57pm	Print Post
	I don't claim to be a Stevens expert but from what I have seen, the receiver and lever were color case hardened while the hammer, trigger, and block were blued. I'm sure there are variations due to custom orders.


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1605 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #2 - Dec 19^th, 2020 at 1:58pm	Print Post
	Patently waiting for answer as well...


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blunderbus41 Full Member Offline Posts: 109 Location: middletown,Ohio Joined: Mar 31^st, 2013	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #3 - Dec 19^th, 2020 at 2:18pm	Print Post
	My 414 Armory has beautiful Color-cased receiver and lever tne rest is blued. john


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #4 - Dec 19^th, 2020 at 3:01pm	Print Post
	I would check with CPA Paul has quite a bit of knowledge about anything Stevens related and could probably also do the Stevens style of case hardening for you if that is what it calls for.

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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1377 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #5 - Dec 19^th, 2020 at 4:01pm	Print Post
	Until possibly just before the Savage takeover, the standard Stevens 44 finish was a color-case-hardened action, lever, and buttplate in a distinctive angled, tight ripple pattern. with the hammer, block, trigger(s), and all externally visible screws blued. thereafter, guns through say the early- to mid-1920s have case-hardened actions in a more conventional random pattern with the lever usually matching (but sometimes, if rarely, blued) while the buttplates increasingly became shotgun-style "hard rubber". Finally, everything is blued. At one time Turnbull and a very few others were able to closely duplicate Steven's distinctive early pattern; nowadays, CPA still comes "close enough", while I'm not sure anyone else even claims to. Bill Lawrence
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Sure shot Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1069 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #6 - Dec 19^th, 2020 at 5:55pm	Print Post
	The buttplate was generally color cased too. Anyone have any recommendations for a shop/smith to replicate the Savage owned Stevens color case?


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2053 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #7 - Dec 19^th, 2020 at 10:38pm	Print Post
	As Bill above stated, anyone who can case color well can accomplish the Job. There is a recent post that mentions quite a few. A fellow by the name of Springer seemed to be a favorite. Keith Kilby at Wyoming Armory is another, and the list oes on.

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chipmaker Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 362 Location: san diego Joined: Sep 24^th, 2007	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #8 - Dec 20^th, 2020 at 11:26am	Print Post
	Thanks to all who have posted replies to my question. Sure Shot: Yes. The butt plate on my M-44 was finished by CCH but has lost all of its color. Bill: Is it safe to say that a rifle with all the action parts CCH would have been a special order rifle or were there some models that came that way? I ask because I have a friend who has a beautiful M-44, that has what looks like original CCH, on all the action parts. Otto


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Sure shot Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1069 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #9 - Dec 20^th, 2020 at 1:34pm	Print Post
	Extras for 44’s & 44 1/2’s and higher grade rifles available in my reprint Stevens catalog #52 - 1907-8.


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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1377 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #10 - Dec 20^th, 2020 at 1:53pm	Print Post
	Otto, Stevens supposedly achieved their distinctive CCH pattern by using a cyanide dip process. More to the point, I only have a good many Stevens catalogs, not a complete set. Therefore, I can't assert that Stevens never offered to CCH all action parts at an extra charge. Moreover, such was certainly technically possible, as other manufacturers showed. But unless the pattern is consistent on all your friend's rifle's parts and the gun shows no signs whatever of being refinished, I'd want it vouched for by in-person expert review before calling the gun "factory". Bill Lawrence


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chipmaker Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 362 Location: san diego Joined: Sep 24^th, 2007	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #11 - Dec 20^th, 2020 at 2:29pm	Print Post
	Thanks Bill and Sure shot for the additional information. Otto


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4183 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #12 - Dec 20^th, 2020 at 4:11pm	Print Post
	My older (7 o'clock) 44 Model 45 has everything CCH, possibly even the screw heads (hard to tell with the age fading.)


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #13 - Dec 20^th, 2020 at 11:50pm	Print Post
	I've now got 13 original Model 108s, 44s, 45s and 47s, all prior to WW1. All are or were color cased receiver and lever, blued breechblock. Hammers and triggers were case hardened and blued. I've got photos of about 250 examples found on the internet, collected along with my database project. I can't remember ever seeing a color-cased hammer on any. "Course a lot are so patina'd that you couldn't tell.

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ratseye Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Eastern, PA Joined: Feb 28^th, 2017	Re: Stevens M-44 Finishes Reply #14 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 4:19pm	Print Post
	Ok, I will throw mine into the fray, a M44 No49 Walnut Hill and everything is CCH'd, receiver, hammer, breech and lever. The screw heads are a bit more difficult to say. I purchased the gun from Gary Quinlan a very reliable dealer just up the road from me and he told me it was original as did Paul and Gail at CPA when I had it up to them. Like everything in guns, it is very difficult to know absolutely. Thanks, ratseye


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