Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2 3  Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag (Read 7376 times)
Gunfunpow
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 239
Joined: Jun 20th, 2018
Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Nov 27th, 2020 at 4:24pm
Print Post  
I came across one in a LGS recently. Since I traded off my trapdoor for a BRC in 40-65, I've really enjoyed everything about it. I didn't exactly jump all over this Krag chambering for a few reasons. Which brings us to the reason for this post. 
Does anyone have any information about the chambering in this rifle, ie: twist rate, designed for cast or jacketed bullets? 
Additionally, the rifle has scope blocks mounted, a rear tang sight base is installed, but no staff. Is there a way to determine scope choice based off of block spacing? I kind of like the idea of a .30 cal. in a highwall especially since it matches the original era of rifle/cartridge, so that's the pea what's been rattling around the tin pan I call my brain for the past week or so.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
SSShooter
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2917
Location: Southern NJ
Joined: Aug 1st, 2010
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #1 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 5:28pm
Print Post  
If in good shape at a decent price you should get it. They are high quality and fairly rare.
Am sure if you post a pic of the sight base and the blocks, with spacing info, they can be identified.
  

Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
Back to top
GTalk  
IP Logged
 
Hiwall55
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 468
Location: west central Illinois
Joined: Jun 30th, 2012
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #2 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:19pm
Print Post  
I've got a Shiloh that I picked up years ago at a LGS thinking of rebarrel  to 38/50 , but its so fun to shoot with smokless and  cast that its still stock except  that I cut the barrel down to 30 from 34" . I'm  sure its 10 twist and will handle all loads. Mine likes 311284, 210 grain lyman.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
rkba2nd
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1935
Location: earth
Joined: Feb 16th, 2009
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #3 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:47pm
Print Post  
I would contact Wyoming Armory, it might be possible to find answers to your questions there. I too would assume 1-10 twist, but one never knows! The tang sight and scope may have been added at a later time. If target bases, the spacing would only indicate length. Tang sight were usually one of Ron Long's design, somewhat like the windage adjustable Remington Walker. The customer could of course chose what he (or she) wanted.
  

rkba2nd
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Old Soldier
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 280
Location: North Pole, Alaska
Joined: Oct 17th, 2015
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #4 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 12:00am
Print Post  
Whelen carried a HW in 30-40 He loved it. I've wanted one since reading his book Mr. Rifleman.
  

"White man have very strong Medicine. Shoot today maybeso kill you tomorrow." Esa-Tai Commanche warrior
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Bulseyetom
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 957
Location: Santa Maria, Ca
Joined: Oct 31st, 2010
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #5 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 11:16am
Print Post  
I have a Winchester HW that has been rebarreled to 30-40 with a 12 twist barrel.  It is very accurate and fun to shoot with jacketed bullets.  I packed it on a cow elk hunt one day this past fall but never got within range of my tang sight.  Tom
  
Back to top
Twitter  
IP Logged
 
George Babits
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1103
Joined: Sep 27th, 2012
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #6 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 12:44pm
Print Post  
Back about 1984 or so I had a long discussion with Wolf Droege at the Virginia City Buffalo Runners shoot  about the possibilities of building the Sharps in 30-40 Krag.   At that time he said if I could show him an original in 30-40 Krag he would consider it.   Turned out on there was one, Freund modified, at the Roosevelt museum in Medora SD.  Next year at the shoot I told him all about it.  Three or four months later I had a call from him saying he would build a couple and see if they would sell.   My  Montana Rough rider in 30-40 Krag , half round/octagonal,  arrived the tail end of January 1986.   The price was $542.00 plus $11.00 for COD shipping!   Were those the "good old days?;"   and, only 3 or 4 months for delivery.   Obviously  the results of "testing the waters" turned out very well as the 30-40 Krag was listed in the next catalog as a standard caliber.   It is a tack driver with 180 grain jacketed bullets, but mostly I shoot a 190 grain gas check lead bullet.   I  doubt I'd ever part with it.

Having said all that,  I've always wanted a 30-40 original Highwall too as it could probably be built a pound lighter with a #3 barrel. 

George
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
830singleshot
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 404
Location: Texas
Joined: Feb 11th, 2007
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #7 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 2:22pm
Print Post  
If I had stumbled onto a fairly priced Ballard Rifle Co 1885 30-40 krag, I would be posting pictures of my new rifle!
  

J. Scott McCash&&New Braunfels, TX&&830-237-2376&&jsmccash@yahoo.com
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
JLouis
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 10625
Joined: Apr 8th, 2009
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #8 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 2:33pm
Print Post  
It would make for a very nice hunting rifle all the way up to elk, moose and bear. But unfortunately my hunting days are over or I would be showing pictures of it as well.
  

" It Is Better To Now Have Been A Has Been Than A Never Was Or A Wanna Be "
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Old-Win
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1672
Location: Minnesota
Joined: Nov 24th, 2005
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #9 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:12pm
Print Post  
Gunfunpow wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 4:24pm:
I came across one in a LGS recently. Since I traded off my trapdoor for a BRC in 40-65, I've really enjoyed everything about it. I didn't exactly jump all over this Krag chambering for a few reasons. Which brings us to the reason for this post. 
Does anyone have any information about the chambering in this rifle, ie: twist rate, designed for cast or jacketed bullets? 
Additionally, the rifle has scope blocks mounted, a rear tang sight base is installed, but no staff. Is there a way to determine scope choice based off of block spacing? I kind of like the idea of a .30 cal. in a highwall especially since it matches the original era of rifle/cartridge, so that's the pea what's been rattling around the tin pan I call my brain for the past week or so.

What are they asking for the rifle?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
George Babits
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1103
Joined: Sep 27th, 2012
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #10 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 8:51pm
Print Post  
Not being a "texter," would someone please clue me in to what the heck is an LGS?   Sounds like a good place to find nice rifles.

Thanks,
George
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
sureshot
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 297
Location: Snohomish
Joined: May 27th, 2007
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #11 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 8:53pm
Print Post  
Local Gun Shop
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
oneatatime
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 3875
Location: Rocky Mountains
Joined: Oct 30th, 2011
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #12 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 12:13am
Print Post  
Yes, the LGSs were where the ODGs used to hang out.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
George Babits
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1103
Joined: Sep 27th, 2012
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #13 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:29am
Print Post  
geeze - - -whatever happened to un-abbreviated english?

George
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
40_Rod
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


Extremism in the persuit
of accuracy is not a
vice

Posts: 4285
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: Apr 20th, 2004
Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #14 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 10:23am
Print Post  
A couple of things; I'd be willing bro bet good money it is a cast bullet gun. When Pope wanted a gun for hunting he ordered a High Wall in 30-40 from Winchester. In Pope's words you dont need a Pope barrel to kill a deer. Lastly if the blocks are 7.2" center to center virtually any externally adjustable scope will work. Again if I were a betting man i'd bet they were unertl blocks.

40 Rod
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2 3 
Send TopicPrint