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Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Nov 27th, 2020 at 4:24pm
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I came across one in a LGS recently. Since I traded off my trapdoor for a BRC in 40-65, I've really enjoyed everything about it. I didn't exactly jump all over this Krag chambering for a few reasons. Which brings us to the reason for this post. 
Does anyone have any information about the chambering in this rifle, ie: twist rate, designed for cast or jacketed bullets? 
Additionally, the rifle has scope blocks mounted, a rear tang sight base is installed, but no staff. Is there a way to determine scope choice based off of block spacing? I kind of like the idea of a .30 cal. in a highwall especially since it matches the original era of rifle/cartridge, so that's the pea what's been rattling around the tin pan I call my brain for the past week or so.
  
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Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #1 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 5:28pm
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If in good shape at a decent price you should get it. They are high quality and fairly rare.
Am sure if you post a pic of the sight base and the blocks, with spacing info, they can be identified.
  

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Reply #2 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 8:19pm
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I've got a Shiloh that I picked up years ago at a LGS thinking of rebarrel  to 38/50 , but its so fun to shoot with smokless and  cast that its still stock except  that I cut the barrel down to 30 from 34" . I'm  sure its 10 twist and will handle all loads. Mine likes 311284, 210 grain lyman.
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 10:47pm
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I would contact Wyoming Armory, it might be possible to find answers to your questions there. I too would assume 1-10 twist, but one never knows! The tang sight and scope may have been added at a later time. If target bases, the spacing would only indicate length. Tang sight were usually one of Ron Long's design, somewhat like the windage adjustable Remington Walker. The customer could of course chose what he (or she) wanted.
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 12:00am
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Whelen carried a HW in 30-40 He loved it. I've wanted one since reading his book Mr. Rifleman.
  

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Reply #5 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 11:16am
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I have a Winchester HW that has been rebarreled to 30-40 with a 12 twist barrel.  It is very accurate and fun to shoot with jacketed bullets.  I packed it on a cow elk hunt one day this past fall but never got within range of my tang sight.  Tom
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 12:44pm
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Back about 1984 or so I had a long discussion with Wolf Droege at the Virginia City Buffalo Runners shoot  about the possibilities of building the Sharps in 30-40 Krag.   At that time he said if I could show him an original in 30-40 Krag he would consider it.   Turned out on there was one, Freund modified, at the Roosevelt museum in Medora SD.  Next year at the shoot I told him all about it.  Three or four months later I had a call from him saying he would build a couple and see if they would sell.   My  Montana Rough rider in 30-40 Krag , half round/octagonal,  arrived the tail end of January 1986.   The price was $542.00 plus $11.00 for COD shipping!   Were those the "good old days?;"   and, only 3 or 4 months for delivery.   Obviously  the results of "testing the waters" turned out very well as the 30-40 Krag was listed in the next catalog as a standard caliber.   It is a tack driver with 180 grain jacketed bullets, but mostly I shoot a 190 grain gas check lead bullet.   I  doubt I'd ever part with it.

Having said all that,  I've always wanted a 30-40 original Highwall too as it could probably be built a pound lighter with a #3 barrel. 

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Reply #7 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 2:22pm
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If I had stumbled onto a fairly priced Ballard Rifle Co 1885 30-40 krag, I would be posting pictures of my new rifle!
  

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Reply #8 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 2:33pm
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It would make for a very nice hunting rifle all the way up to elk, moose and bear. But unfortunately my hunting days are over or I would be showing pictures of it as well.
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 7:12pm
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Gunfunpow wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 4:24pm:
I came across one in a LGS recently. Since I traded off my trapdoor for a BRC in 40-65, I've really enjoyed everything about it. I didn't exactly jump all over this Krag chambering for a few reasons. Which brings us to the reason for this post. 
Does anyone have any information about the chambering in this rifle, ie: twist rate, designed for cast or jacketed bullets? 
Additionally, the rifle has scope blocks mounted, a rear tang sight base is installed, but no staff. Is there a way to determine scope choice based off of block spacing? I kind of like the idea of a .30 cal. in a highwall especially since it matches the original era of rifle/cartridge, so that's the pea what's been rattling around the tin pan I call my brain for the past week or so.

What are they asking for the rifle?
  
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Reply #10 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 8:51pm
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Not being a "texter," would someone please clue me in to what the heck is an LGS?   Sounds like a good place to find nice rifles.

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Reply #12 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 12:13am
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Yes, the LGSs were where the ODGs used to hang out.
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 9:29am
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geeze - - -whatever happened to un-abbreviated english?

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Re: Ballard Rifle Co. Highwall in 30-40 Krag
Reply #14 - Nov 29th, 2020 at 10:23am
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A couple of things; I'd be willing bro bet good money it is a cast bullet gun. When Pope wanted a gun for hunting he ordered a High Wall in 30-40 from Winchester. In Pope's words you dont need a Pope barrel to kill a deer. Lastly if the blocks are 7.2" center to center virtually any externally adjustable scope will work. Again if I were a betting man i'd bet they were unertl blocks.

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