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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Oct 29^th, 2020 at 12:32am	Print Post
	I just got around to reading an article in the May/June Single Shot Rifle Journal entitled Streetcars, Gas Lights, and Black Powder; Target Shooting, Winder Muskets and maybe some other stroies thrown in by Waterman. On page 23 there is a brief reference to the Stevens No 600 target rifle brought out in 1911 built around a BSA Martini action. It is also known as the Bisley Model and I have on so marked. I did a lot of research on this gun when I got it many years back. It was discussed at length on this forum. Waterman states in this article that there were 10 of them made. I would like to know his source for this number? The only number I came up in my research was about 12 as I recall. Need to try to find all my research on this. May take a while after moving 4 months ago. I recal coming up with serial numbers on around 10 but I'll have to check. One sold on Gun Broker a while back and I added it to my records. My thoughts are there should be more out there. If anyone here has one I would apprecate any info ont it. Back to my question. Where did Waterman come up with the production number of 10?


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #1 - Oct 29^th, 2020 at 9:25pm	Print Post
	Anyone?


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #2 - Oct 30^th, 2020 at 3:54am	Print Post
	I know of these only from the reference in Grant, which will surely be old news to you.

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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1314 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #3 - Oct 30^th, 2020 at 7:13am	Print Post
	I have seen only one ad for this gun, culled I presume from some British publication. If I remember correctly, it was displayed on this site, if some time ago. Bill Lawrence


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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 913 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #4 - Oct 30^th, 2020 at 7:48am	Print Post
	I've only recently heard of these rifles,I saw the one on gunbroker this past year or so. Where were these guns made,here in the U.S. by Stevens,or made up by someone for Stevens in England?


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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #5 - Oct 30^th, 2020 at 8:57am	Print Post
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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #6 - Oct 30^th, 2020 at 10:07pm	Print Post
	I'm still looking for Watermans source for the 10 gun production figure. I'm sure he did not pull that number out of the air.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #7 - Oct 30^th, 2020 at 11:54pm	Print Post
	On Page 12 of Grant's "Still More Single Shot Rifles' he describes one, and refers to a Guns Magazine article, February 1969, by a Mr. Kingsley Karnopp. Karnopp in turn cites a V.P. of Savage/Stevens named O. M. "Jack" Knode as saying that only ten were made.

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Crown-C Senior Forum Member Online Posts: 496 Location: St. Marys Kansas Joined: Apr 6^th, 2009	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #8 - Oct 31^st, 2020 at 9:57am	Print Post
	One of the Bisley models came up for sale about 10-12 years ago at the Topeka Ks, Kull action. I looked at it at a preview and it was nice. I wasn’t really into Stevens, but I did bid it up to $1,500 if memory serves me right. Think it went for a little more. I’d bet someone on this forum bought it! They got a good one!

	Richard Crown-C Ranch in the Flinthills NRA Life Member ASSRA Member # 10366 Member & Founders Society, Cody Firearms Museum Veteran
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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #9 - Oct 31^st, 2020 at 10:59pm	Print Post
	I'm familiar with Grant's reference. Hoping there might be another source. My example is not pristine. Has a Parker Hale liner in it for one thing. Bought it a long time ago for what I thought was a crazy price at the time. Not so crazy now. Still looking for any info on them and a better example than the one I have. Mine is a good shooter. For as few as there are supposed to be, several that I have come across have been modified. One is now in 219 Zipper. The fun is in the search.


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2845 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #10 - Nov 1^st, 2020 at 2:47am	Print Post
	slumlord44 wrote on Oct 29^th, 2020 at 12:32am: I just got around to reading an article in the May/June Single Shot Rifle Journal entitled Streetcars, Gas Lights, and Black Powder; Target Shooting, Winder Muskets and maybe some other stories thrown in by Waterman. On page 23 there is a brief reference to the Stevens No 600 target rifle brought out in 1911 built around a BSA Martini action. It is also known as the Bisley Model and I have on so marked. I did a lot of research on this gun when I got it many years back. It was discussed at length on this forum. Waterman states in this article that there were 10 of them made. I would like to know his source for this number? The only number I came up in my research was about 12 as I recall. Need to try to find all my research on this. May take a while after moving 4 months ago. I recall coming up with serial numbers on around 10 but I'll have to check. One sold on Gun Broker a while back and I added it to my records. My thoughts are there should be more out there. If anyone here has one I would appreciate any info on it. Back to my question. Where did Waterman come up with the production number of 10? IN one of Grant's books. Probably the one cited. It's right there on my bookshelf.


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #11 - Nov 3^rd, 2020 at 11:26pm	Print Post
	Thanks for the reply. That was one of my references. I had thought you might have possibly had another source. There is very little information on this model. Wish I could find more. Always looking for info on it and another example.


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2845 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #12 - Nov 4^th, 2020 at 3:38am	Print Post
	slumlord44 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2020 at 11:26pm: Thanks for the reply. That was one of my references. I had thought you might have possibly had another source. There is very little information on this model. Wish I could find more. Always looking for info on it and another example. A Parker-Hale liner in what was probably a very good Stevens Bisley is just a good example of BritThink. Circa 1911, no American firm could possibly make an accurate .22 rimfire barrel, certainly not an outfit that called themselves "J. Stevens A&T Co."


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Fred Boulton Oldtimer Offline Posts: 801 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2007	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #13 - Nov 4^th, 2020 at 7:20am	Print Post
	What rubbish! US rifles have always been highly regarded here. Most rifles found with the Parker sleeving system were lined because the early .22 ammo was highly corrosive. Forget to clean your barrel and it would convert itself into a .177 over night. Fred


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1945 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Stevens Model No. 600, Bisley Model Reply #14 - Nov 4^th, 2020 at 1:39pm	Print Post
	Fred - I am not sure I am following you. What exactly is rubbish?

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