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Aug 1st, 2020 at 12:17pm
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I know that these boys rifles are fairly scarce,do any of you own any of these?
I have seen a few Sure shots for sale in the recent past,but even fewer little krags for sale. I do own examples of both,but neither are in the best of condition. Any information on these rifles would be of interest.
There is a Sure shot on gunbroker right now if anyone is interested,but is in pretty rough condition.
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 1st, 2020 at 3:58pm
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$800 value
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 1st, 2020 at 4:27pm
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The Sure Shot, Little Krag, and Maynard Jr. were collectively probably the worst boy's rifles that Stevens produced and the least popular.  But at least the Sure Shot 's build quality was high and its mechanism interesting, as I learned when I got to play with a very nice and still functional one owned by a collector friend.

The one on Gunbroker could be saved, and some would say $250 is a bargain for this particular gun.  But the seller doesn't realize that the notorious "swing arm" mechanism is what works the extractor, now apparently frozen inside the barrel.  Even if well-repaired, that mechanism will remain the gun's very weak point.

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Reply #3 - Aug 1st, 2020 at 5:39pm
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Much as I am addicted to boys' rifles, and Stevens in particular, I think I'll pass.  

Gotta wonder why the company even brought out the Sure Shot, since it was exactly contemporaneous with the far better Favorite.   Roll Eyes    

Not at all surprising that as soon as Irving Page took over it was given its' quietus. 
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 1st, 2020 at 6:11pm
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Thanks John Boy for the link,good read.

I agree,the Sure Shot that's on gunbroker could be saved,if I were to win it,I would just try to clean it up a little without ruining the patina,there's lots of patina. I am tempted to bid on it just for the stock,as my Sure Shot has a pretty good crack in the buttstock.
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 2nd, 2020 at 9:50am
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Make up yer mind - this AM there's already two bids in on it!   Smiley
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 2nd, 2020 at 1:45pm
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Looks like it has a repair at the wrist with a thru bolt,so I guess I'll pass. Smiley
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 8th, 2020 at 1:29pm
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The rough sure shot on gunbroker sold for $555.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 8th, 2020 at 1:46pm
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Well, as the old time auctioneers used to cry: "The more you pay, the more it's worth".    

Hope the new owner puts in the time, effort and $$$$ to restore it.
  

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Reply #9 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 6:37pm
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I have two sure shots and one little krag.  One of my sure shots, serial 37xx, is pretty nice but the bore is toast.  The other is in poor shape, serial number 152, but the wood is still pretty nice.  I have only seen four sure shots in the wild, and one of them had been completely refinished.

My little krag is in fair shape, and I have looked for years to find one in better condition, but have never seen another.  I have seen more Stevens sure shots and side plates than I have seen little krags.  So which is the more scarce?
  
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Reply #10 - Apr 12th, 2021 at 7:19pm
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I’ve read that the sure shot rifle is the most scarce Stevens boy’s rifle, in several different sources, but I tend to agree with you on the Little Krag. Another scarce Stevens boy’s rifle is the #14 Little Scout with the one piece stock, only made for a couple years, then replaced with the #14 1/2 Little Scout with the two piece stock which is a very common model. I own a really nice #14 Little Scout, but the bore is fair at best.
  
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Reply #11 - Apr 13th, 2021 at 1:09am
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I have a Sure shot that has a decent exterior and an excellent bore. Also have a Little Krag with nice exterior and excellent bore. Took me a lot of years to find both of them and paid way more than I should of at the time. While I paid too much at the time, time has fixed that. Both are definitely not the best designs Stevens had but the limited production makes them valuable and interesting guns. I've shot both on a very limited basis and accuracy is comparable to other low end boys rifles. While I am always looking for an up grade to the examples I have, no luck so far. The other rare on I have is a Bisley Model. Still looking for a better Bisley also. The hunt is the fun part. I passed on a Sure Shot in poor condition many years back because of the condition. Price was right at the time and still regret no buying that one. If it's rare enough condition becomes less important if the price is right.
  
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Reply #12 - Apr 13th, 2021 at 7:41am
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If it's rare enough condition becomes less important if the price is right

I have to respectfully disagree.  Condition is key, especially when the item, gun or whatever, goes back into the marketplace.

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Reply #13 - Apr 19th, 2021 at 11:11pm
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Condition is always key. My contention is that rarity and condition both enter into value and if it's worth buying to me. A common gun in poor condition I'll always pass on unless I need it for parts. If there are only a handful of examples of a model ever made, a poor condition example would be of interest to me. Also if I have an opening in my collection, the longer I go without finding it the more likely I am to buy a less than pristine example. For example the Stevens Bisley Model that I bought many years go was in less than pristine condition. I paid more than I wanted to but I have never regretted it because decades later I have not been able to buy a better one. My collection. My money. My choice.
  
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Reply #14 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 11:18am
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Condition may be key for investment purposes, but I resonate with James Grant’s statement:

“A collector who insists upon the ultimate in condition will never have a truly representative collection, though he will have many fine specimens.”

The few really high-condition antiques I have don’t get shot a lot, compared to the refurbished or restored (or not) clunkers I’ve accumulated.
  
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