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Reply #15 - Jul 26th, 2020 at 3:29pm
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5744 and oatmeal, organic or otherwise? I predict no change to the brass and a very dirty barrel and, when you pull the brass out, a chamber full of powder kernels. Of course, when the oatmeal finally makes a plug in the barrel you could be looking at a ring. I wouldn't do it. Don't try to reinvent the wheel. 10 grains or so of a fast pistol or shotgun powder and COW - Cream of Wheat (or, but hard to find in New Jersey, grits - but they stink!).
  
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Reply #16 - Jul 26th, 2020 at 4:29pm
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  To make 40-50SS from 30-40 Krag: 12.5g Bullseye, fill with corn meal and a wad of some sort to hold it in.
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Reply #17 - Jul 28th, 2020 at 9:10pm
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Guarantee to work perfect
This is what I do, 38/50 rem 303 brass and numerous others. 
1 Anneal brass 
Pistol primers
Sm charge 10-15 hrs start low, Fast or fastest pistol powder, cover with cream o wheat, corn meal,  etc, Some say corn wears bore... I’ve not seen, but won’t say it can’t. Tuft of paper cotton to cap, not needed if you keep it upright. 
Shoot it,
Trim,
Ready for paper patch loads, resize for others 
Done
  
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Reply #18 - Jul 28th, 2020 at 10:38pm
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Carefully-made multi-step expander plug. A straight section, then a taper to the next size, (maybe 0.040 bigger), another straight section, another taper, etc.   Easily take 30-30 to 38-55 in one stroke, 30-40 to .40-60, one stroke, 8mm Lebel to 41 Swiss, one stroke.   Anneal afterwards.   When I used to use the cream-of-wheat program, I'd get uneven, split, or crooked necks, etc.   No more.

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Reply #19 - Jul 29th, 2020 at 6:53am
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Annealed all 200 cases, so that's out of the way. Trimmed 50 to length (based on a chamber cast). Loaded a couple with 18gr of 5744 and oatmeal before deciding that was about as much trouble as loading with a bullet, so loaded the balance with a normal load and a bullet and will 'fire for effect'. 

BTW - I use a case-forming expander die that Chris gave me several years ago to make 30-40 Gov't cases into 38-50 cases. As Chris mentions, anneal and then a bit of case lube inside & out on the case mouth (about every 5th case) and it is a one-step process.
  

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Reply #20 - Jul 29th, 2020 at 7:57pm
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The advantage of not using a bullet (too late in this case) is that you can leave the brass long as it tends to shorten when fireformed.  Then trim to length when you are finished.  Tom
  
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