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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1570 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	range loading snafu Jul 12^th, 2020 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	Got out to the range this morning at 5 with my 32-40 Ruger #3 Schuetzen that is fairly new to me. I've had it out about three times and initially wasn't running the velocity high enough and getting tippers but the last time out it seemed to be coming around. This morning I went out and I just was getting tons of vertical stringing driving me crazy. So I switched from 4227 to a different powder Same results. Then I got a shot that sounded really weird. I'm loading with a Belding and mull measure and I have a funnel screwed to the base to charge the case. One of my de capped primers had fallen in the funnel and was partially blocking the hole so I was getting varying powder charges. I knocked the primer out of there and then my groups were quite a bit better but I only had 15 bullets left! just one if those days. But still better than work


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: range loading snafu Reply #1 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 1:39pm	Print Post
	It's those little things that at times can be hard to figure out. Happy to hear you sorted it out and identified the problem so you now know what to look for should it happen to you again.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2747 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: range loading snafu Reply #2 - Jul 12^th, 2020 at 10:56pm	Print Post
	I have been concentrating on my 28 cal for a while, but when I did shoot my main match rifle, a 32-40 High Wall, It wasn't quite there like it had been in the past. In fact, at the last match in September, seemed 'out of sorts". I decided to check everything besides just powder and bullets and found that my seater had backed out a bit and was seating the bullets .030 deeper than I had recorded as the most accurate setting. Fixed that and at the range yesterday shot a couple of 5 shot groups less than 1" high and about 1.5" wide at 200 yds. All is well again. Jack

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11458 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: range loading snafu Reply #3 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 12:04am	Print Post
	Chuck Bordman kept blowing primers one day at Spokane. Turned out his Manley Oakley breech seater had backed off. Bullet wasn't going in far enough. Little Miller short didn't like that.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2747 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: range loading snafu Reply #4 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 11:27am	Print Post
	I am going to Loctite my main seaters for my 28 G&H and 32-40 and carry a second one that I can experiment with for those rifles. More stuff for the range bag! Jack

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: range loading snafu Reply #5 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 11:55am	Print Post
	Having the seater change its setting is more common than most might think. And typically the first thing one wants to look at when the groups start falling apart.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2747 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: range loading snafu Reply #6 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 12:56pm	Print Post
	I even have the OAL written in sharpie on the seater and a dial caliper in my range box. Need to write a note on my powder measure or something! Jack

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2747 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: range loading snafu Reply #7 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 1:04pm	Print Post
	No time like the preent!. Done Jack

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3561 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: range loading snafu Reply #8 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 2:01pm	Print Post
	That's a good idea. Thanks, Jack. Now, where did I put my sharpie? I should write down where it is.......................


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: range loading snafu Reply #9 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 2:46pm	Print Post
	I keep my settings in a note book that I keep in my shooting bag and I also keep a Vernier inside there as well. I measure from the face of the rim to the end of the seater plug. I just find it abit easier for myself to take the measurement from.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11458 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: range loading snafu Reply #10 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	Most of my breech seaters will not come out of adjustment. My Manley seater can, or could. Maybe I fixed it. Don't remember.

	A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: range loading snafu Reply #11 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 11:09pm	Print Post
	bpjack wrote on Jul 13^th, 2020 at 11:27am: I am going to Loctite my main seaters for my 28 G&H and 32-40 and carry a second one that I can experiment with for those rifles. More stuff for the range bag! Jack I would use blue or green Loctite.

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ww Full Member Offline Posts: 176 Joined: Apr 18^th, 2017	Re: range loading snafu Reply #12 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 8:39am	Print Post
	Not green loctite. That's pretty much permanent, blue or purple will allow adjustments. WW


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2747 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: range loading snafu Reply #13 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 5:07pm	Print Post
	I used some 222MS low strengh purple. Jack

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2747 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: range loading snafu Reply #14 - Jul 15^th, 2020 at 11:47am	Print Post
	Then I went to the range yesterday to test and forgot my wing flags on a very windy day Jack

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