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bikes Participating Member Offline Posts: 23 Joined: Apr 29^th, 2020	Stevens 44 May 3^rd, 2020 at 8:44am	Print Post
	How can you tell a 25-20 single shot from a 25-20 wcf ?


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #1 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 9:14am	Print Post
	- Hopefully, the barrel will be marked. - After that, a chamber cast with the low melting point alloy from Rotometals or Brownells or wherever works great. Just did two (2) on my Stevens barrels in about 5min. Can't be much easier with the barrel removed from the action. - The rim diameter for the 25-20WCF is 0.408" and 25-20SS is 0.378". Since it is so easy to remove/replace the barrel on a Model 44 is simple enough to do - pull the barrel for an accurate measurement or chamber cast.

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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bikes Participating Member Offline Posts: 23 Joined: Apr 29^th, 2020	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #2 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 9:22am	Print Post
	Thanks for the info and prompt reply. I am shopping online and the bbl is clearly marked only "25.20" in nice script ???


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #3 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 9:46am	Print Post
	Am not sure if they were ever chambered in 25-20SS, but one of our resident Stevens experts (not me - I just shoot them ) will have to come along and answer that question. However, being one or the other would not hold me back if I wanted a Model 44 in 25-20. Not enough difference between the performance of the WCF & SS to worry about.

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1561 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #4 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 9:48am	Print Post
	I don't think they were ever chambered in 25WCF.

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bikes Participating Member Offline Posts: 23 Joined: Apr 29^th, 2020	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #5 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 9:55am	Print Post
	the ss brass and dies is about 5 times more expensive than the wcf


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3758 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #6 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 11:52am	Print Post
	Yes, finding good and reasonably priced brass for the SS is a problem. If there is any question of the chambering, a WCF will not come close to going into an SS. If you are asking the question online ask them to try to chamber a WCF. It might be better to just look for a Winchester Low Wall. That said, I have a 44 in SS and I love it! Oh, I load the SS in WCF dies (only needs neck sizing) and just use a #10 shellholder (as for .223).


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2798 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #7 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 3:24pm	Print Post
	My experience says if it is a Stevens barrel marked 25-20 in factory script, it is a 25-20 SS. I have both, and even with the brass problems, I'd take the SS any day.


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #8 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 5:37pm	Print Post
	waterman wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 3:24pm: .........even with the brass problems, I'd take the SS any day. Why?

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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ballardhepburnmich ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 598 Location: Scotts,mi. Joined: May 20^th, 2015	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #9 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 11:14pm	Print Post
	Not to long ago it was easier to get 25-20ss brass than wcf. Lee Gibbs Pres.ASSRA


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2849 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #10 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 11:43pm	Print Post
	This has been kicked around before. Stevens used the .25-20 SS for sure. There is some doubt that they ever chambered the .25-20 WCF but some claimed to have them. Chamber cast is the positive way to determine what it is.


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #11 - May 4^th, 2020 at 7:08am	Print Post
	25-20WCF or 25-20SS........ does anyone know the twist-rate of the factory barrel for the 25cal cartridge?

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1006 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #12 - May 4^th, 2020 at 9:02am	Print Post
	List is from an Ideal Handbook #39.

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #13 - May 4^th, 2020 at 11:36am	Print Post
	Thank you. Very helpful. Should be a sticky.

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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TRowe Full Member Offline Posts: 172 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2017	Re: Stevens 44 Reply #14 - May 10^th, 2020 at 11:20am	Print Post
	Stevens would chamber about any popular cartridge .38 or smaller. I have had reported a couple of Stevens Popes in 25-20 WCF


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