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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 552 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Lube sizer die question Apr 27^th, 2020 at 6:20pm	Print Post
	I am puzzled by the number of lubes holes for Lyman/RCBS lubri-sizer's. Some have 1 hole others 2, 3 or four. Dies for long BPCR bullets with 4-5 grooves can be found with one hole or 2 when more would seem to make sense? I have had to drill additional holes in some of mine but not others. Some of my dies are 40 yrs old and had numerous holes, the newer ones less......what gives? I need to buy a .410 die and they seem to have only 2...so more drilling? kw


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JS47 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1265 Location: Arizona Joined: Oct 12^th, 2012	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #1 - Apr 27^th, 2020 at 10:40pm	Print Post
	I have the same question. Some dies I have to run the bullet twice, turning it 90 degrees to get it to fill the grooves. JS


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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1187 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #2 - Apr 27^th, 2020 at 10:45pm	Print Post
	It's simple - production costs are reduced by drilling only 2 holes instead of 4.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11451 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #3 - Apr 27^th, 2020 at 11:21pm	Print Post
	One hole per lube groove.

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2731 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #4 - Apr 27^th, 2020 at 11:49pm	Print Post
	Pan lube then size if needed. I haven't applied lube with my 3 lubrisizers since I became a 'panner'. Goes along with being a dipper banger and a bag squeezer. Jack

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singleshot Senior Forum Member Offline I love singleshots! Posts: 331 Location: Fort Mill, SC Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #5 - Apr 28^th, 2020 at 2:37am	Print Post
	Lyman/RCBS/SAECO type lubricators depend on pressure pushing the lube into the grooves as they pass the holes. Run it too fast or without enough pressure to make the lube flow and you get partial fill.

	Willis Gregory, aka singleshot
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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1851 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #6 - Apr 28^th, 2020 at 7:42am	Print Post
	Lube softness may also affect how well it flows and fills. Thus heaters for lumber/sizers. 2nd pan lubing


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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 552 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #7 - Apr 28^th, 2020 at 7:56am	Print Post
	Too many holes in the die body can make a mess with lube oozing out everywhere and too few do not fill the grooves in one stroke. When you do find the right combo of holes to bullet choice, it works nicely. Never needed a press heater for BPCR lube. kw


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art_ruggiero Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1082 Location: CT Joined: Dec 14^th, 2008	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #8 - Apr 28^th, 2020 at 11:32am	Print Post
	i lightly warm my luber with a hair blower except in hot weather art


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dave_j Full Member Offline Posts: 246 Location: Nevada desert Joined: Jul 12^th, 2005	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #9 - Apr 28^th, 2020 at 9:01pm	Print Post
	i use the lyman tool with rcbs and lyman dies, 2 and 4 holes my 30 cal is set up for a lyman heater with hard lube. i like to turn the bullet 180 degrees so the lube is evenly packed all around. that way there is no missed spots on the bullet and the top punch makes the same mark on the bullet nose all around. i did not realize how much lube weighs until i weighed some bullets where the rings were not filled completely. i am still learning.

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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 552 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #10 - May 1^st, 2020 at 9:21am	Print Post
	Been alot of great replies, but no one has really addressed my original question about the number of holes and the "why". If Lyman/RCBS is selling say a .458 lube die, you have to expect its going to used on a long lead bullet, so why make a 1 or 2 hole die when a 4 hole makes more sense on a 4 groove bullet? kw


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1568 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #11 - May 1^st, 2020 at 10:55pm	Print Post
	Plug The Unwanted holes with lead shot. Problem solved


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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 552 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: Lube sizer die question Reply #12 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 7:41am	Print Post
	cbashooter you are not getting the essense of my question. Both of my posts indicated the frequent need for more holes for 4-5 groove bullets, never had the need to plug holes but have had to drill additional ones. kw


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