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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	"New Roller" Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:53pm	Print Post
	Just got his one at auction for a good price. New"er" Douglas barrel in 38-55, refitted by Lander in New Hampshire. The guys at Doublegun don't seem to think much of him, but we'll see. Wish it was still original, but it should be a fun shooter. I have a nice Junior Targetspot for it, but might go with a Lischert. Aaron

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Online deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11514 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: "New Roller" Reply #1 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:19pm	Print Post
	Extreme Black Leaf. What is that lump on top of the receiver ring?

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: "New Roller" Reply #2 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:38pm	Print Post
	Nice looking Rifle.

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #3 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:04pm	Print Post
	thanks John. Joe, my best guess is that it's a rear sight. I don't have the rifle yet, I hope it comes off. Kinda like a wort on the end of ones nose Aaron

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scharfe Oldtimer Offline A good plan today beats a perfect plan tomorrow. Posts: 542 Location: ny / pa line Joined: Dec 18^th, 2006	Re: "New Roller" Reply #4 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:31pm	Print Post
	Very, very nice.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16271 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: "New Roller" Reply #5 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	I like it. The black leaf relief style engraving looks European. Looks like they used the military type buttplate, and made a new forearm to fit the rebarrel. If I owned it I'd get a steel forearm tip from Numrich and reshape and fit it to the forearm wood.

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #6 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 10:24pm	Print Post
	Hi Vall, 3 I'd like to do as you suggest and either change the barrel or it's profile and rust blue. Aaron
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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Online deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11514 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: "New Roller" Reply #7 - Apr 15^th, 2020 at 1:05am	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 7:07pm: I like it. The black leaf relief style engraving looks European. Looks like they used the military type buttplate, and made a new forearm to fit the rebarrel. If I owned it I'd get a steel forearm tip from Numrich and reshape and fit it to the forearm wood. I like it too. Rough but very stylish. Similar to the fancy RB on the ASSRA home page. That nob on the receiver ring must be rare. Better leave it there.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16271 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: "New Roller" Reply #8 - Apr 15^th, 2020 at 11:51am	Print Post
	Rebel wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 10:24pm: Hi Vall, 3 I'd like to do as you suggest and either change the barrel or it's profile and rust blue. Aaron I actually like the full round heavy barrel simply because you don't see this often on Rolling Block Sporting Rifles. I built up a Rolling Block in .40-65 using an original Sporting Rifle action, and a 32" GM full round barrel. One of my favorites simply because of the heavy full round barrel.

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stevenjay1 Participating Member Offline Living in the woods! Posts: 43 Location: So NH, But not too close to MA Joined: Mar 15^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #9 - Apr 19^th, 2020 at 5:48pm	Print Post
	Hi Rebel, I was bidding on that rifle as well but I had to make a choice between several rifles. You got a very nice rifle and you'll be very pleased with the way it shoots. Ed Lander doesn't live to far from me and is now retired. well in his 90's and a WW-II vet and a very interesting fellow. But in the day, he did very good work. Steve

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #10 - Apr 19^th, 2020 at 9:16pm	Print Post
	Thanks Stevenjay. Did you end up with a new rifle? Aaron

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stevenjay1 Participating Member Offline Living in the woods! Posts: 43 Location: So NH, But not too close to MA Joined: Mar 15^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #11 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 11:06am	Print Post
	Hi Arron, Yes I did. A niceRRB No.1 1/2 in 32/20 Needs a little TLC in the stock Department but the price was right. Steve

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ballardhepburnmich ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 598 Location: Scotts,mi. Joined: May 20^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #12 - Apr 21^st, 2020 at 1:28am	Print Post
	Aaron, I'm not normally very fond of much engraving on firearms, but when I saw your rolling block, I fell in love. Lee Gibbs Pres.ASSRA


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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #13 - Apr 21^st, 2020 at 9:08am	Print Post
	Thank you Lee, I'm anxiously waiting and hope it arrives soon. The packaging is already re-purposed for the Winder I recently sold. Aaron

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stevenjay1 Participating Member Offline Living in the woods! Posts: 43 Location: So NH, But not too close to MA Joined: Mar 15^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #14 - Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:25am	Print Post
	Has it arrived yet!

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #15 - Apr 30^th, 2020 at 12:18pm	Print Post
	got it just now. It's better than I expected, which was a lot. So happy with my new toy!! Aaron
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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #16 - May 14^th, 2020 at 11:41am	Print Post
	I learned from someone today on the FB Rolling Block group that this style of engraving is named after the Acanthus plant, which I was unaware of. Learn something new every day if you're lucky. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Aaron

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3912 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: "New Roller" Reply #17 - May 14^th, 2020 at 11:55am	Print Post
	Aaron, it is a very neat pattern whatever it is. Now, please tell us about the lump sight.


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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #18 - May 14^th, 2020 at 12:50pm	Print Post
	Here's a view of the sight and the Litshert scope I added. Westerner suggested leaving the sight and it might require removing the barrel to get to it. I'm learning to live with it, the scope draws my eye away from it. I'm hoping to find another great deal, this one and the Husky 33 I recently acquired came very reasonably. Aaron

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: "New Roller" Reply #19 - May 14^th, 2020 at 2:38pm	Print Post
	I hope it shoots as well as it looks and a very nice rifle indeed. Aaron out of curiosity how is the sight attached you mentioned the barrel might have to be removed to provide access to it. It is such things that give a rifle it's own very unique personality and I would leave it be.

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #20 - May 14^th, 2020 at 3:01pm	Print Post
	Hi John There is no visible way of attaching this sight, so I think it's held from inside the receiver, which would have to be in the barrel channel. Maybe it's screwed or swaged, really can't tell. I'm gonna leave it on. Aaron

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: "New Roller" Reply #21 - May 14^th, 2020 at 3:55pm	Print Post
	Thank you for your reply Aaron and I would also do the same.

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3912 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: "New Roller" Reply #22 - May 14^th, 2020 at 3:55pm	Print Post
	Looks great with the scope on it. Let's see some targets soon! And some from the Husky, too!


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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #23 - May 14^th, 2020 at 4:14pm	Print Post
	Thanks, I should be out of the house soon, but my friend with the range just bought a drag car project he wants to make pro-street with my help. Might be a while till I shoot it. Aaron

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3584 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #24 - May 14^th, 2020 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	That is a neat rifle, man. I wouldn't even think of taking the sight on the bridge off, either. After you get tired of telling your admiring public at the range about the engraving you can thrill 'em for a while longer by pointing that out. Neat stuff.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: "New Roller" Reply #25 - May 14^th, 2020 at 7:38pm	Print Post
	Sounds like you and your friend or going to have a nice project on your hands Aaron.

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #26 - May 14^th, 2020 at 7:45pm	Print Post
	Thank you both for your kind words. Aaron

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Online deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11514 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: "New Roller" Reply #27 - May 15^th, 2020 at 7:08am	Print Post
	The motif on your new roller looks to be grape leaves, Reb.

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #28 - May 15^th, 2020 at 9:30am	Print Post
	quit wine-ing. I don't know, maybe. Is that a popular style of engraving? Perhaps a tribute to Bacchus, promoting "group tighteners" Aaron
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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Online deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11514 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: "New Roller" Reply #29 - May 15^th, 2020 at 10:52am	Print Post
	Popular yes. Very nice. Can you post more pictures of the action?

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Online deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11514 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: "New Roller" Reply #30 - May 15^th, 2020 at 10:59am	Print Post
	Rebel wrote on May 15^th, 2020 at 9:30am: quit wine-ing. I don't know, maybe. Is that a popular style of engraving? Perhaps a tribute to Bacchus, promoting "group tighteners" Aaron Black Leaf engraving. (German floral engraving). Grape leaves being the motif. Very nice.

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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #31 - May 15^th, 2020 at 11:38am	Print Post
	thanks Joe, Aaron

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Online deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11514 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: "New Roller" Reply #32 - May 15^th, 2020 at 12:46pm	Print Post
	Got to thinking about that sight. Might it have been a shotgun originally? Many have been converted to rifles.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16271 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: "New Roller" Reply #33 - May 15^th, 2020 at 9:31pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on May 15^th, 2020 at 12:46pm: Got to thinking about that sight. Might it have been a shotgun originally? Many have been converted to rifles. Rolling Block shotguns I've seen had a grooved top receiver Joe to get low enough to see the bead front sight. I think this taller rear sight on the receiver would need a very tall bead to match up front.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Online deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11514 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: "New Roller" Reply #34 - May 15^th, 2020 at 9:37pm	Print Post
	Yeah, your right Vall. Seems like I saw one of those sights before. Almost like deja vous all over again. Weird.

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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1612 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: "New Roller" Reply #35 - May 16^th, 2020 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	They are not grape leaves, at least not like any grape leaf I've seen, and I've seen lots. Maybe hops. I know very little about hops except that they are labor intensive.

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3584 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #36 - May 16^th, 2020 at 8:18pm	Print Post
	I see both grape leaf and acanthus mixed into the stems. it's appealing, but may not be a normal rendering. It sure wouldn't be on Colts, which tended to have everything, but the leaves were usually done in a single style. Of course, never say never when dealing with firearms- and certainly with Colt. As a guess, this one was to pass a test, maybe for a guild, and the craftsman included each to show his versatility. He passed.


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Rebel Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4292 Location: Rockets and Race Cars Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: "New Roller" Reply #37 - May 16^th, 2020 at 10:05pm	Print Post
	leaves of three, let it be.

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