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Reply #15 - Mar 27th, 2020 at 1:13pm
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Octagon was the standard in ML other than military muskets.
  

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Reply #16 - Mar 27th, 2020 at 1:50pm
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Schuetzenmiester wrote on Mar 27th, 2020 at 1:13pm:
Octagon was the standard in ML other than military muskets.


It's always amazed me when I was told the old ML barrels were hand filed to octagon shape! Amazing amount of hand work, and the finish shows no sign of it all being done by hand with files.
  

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Reply #17 - Mar 27th, 2020 at 3:09pm
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I once swamped a barrel for a muzzle loader that I (finally got) built. Vall comments on the finish bearing no evidence of all that hand work of shaping the metal to octagon. I can say, with less metal to remove on mine, that those guys were persistent dudes. And, in agreement with the finish being so good on theirs, I spent about as much effort 'cleaning it up' to look good. 
Well, almost good. Never again! Nowadays, I never look further forward on an old flinter than the buttstock. Don't want to be reminded, ya know?
  
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Reply #18 - Mar 29th, 2020 at 4:21am
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marlinguy wrote on Mar 27th, 2020 at 1:50pm:
Schuetzenmiester wrote on Mar 27th, 2020 at 1:13pm:
Octagon was the standard in ML other than military muskets.


It's always amazed me when I was told the old ML barrels were hand filed to octagon shape! Amazing amount of hand work, and the finish shows no sign of it all being done by hand with files.

They probably didn't have a lathe so it was easier to make 8 flats than one round  Grin
 
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Reply #19 - Mar 29th, 2020 at 9:25am
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I used to have a DVD on barrel making in the old days showing the gunsmith at Colonial Williamsburg Wallace Gussler and his apprentice hand forging a M/L barrel around a mandrel, this process was very time consuming and leaves the barrel with a lot of hammer indentations, It was possible to hammer the barrel roughly octagonal and then dress it up with a file afterwards. Nearly all the original american long rifles had swamped octagonal  barrels. It is probably still possible to get a copy of that DVD somewhere but I sold mine years ago.
As a matter of interest the last time I was at the NMLRA range in Friendship over ten years ago Mr Gussler had a booth there selling M/L stuff, he may still trade there during the spring and fall comps.
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