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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #15 - Mar 5^th, 2020 at 10:09am	Print Post
	If it were me I'd bid on it but not get caught up in a bidding war for it. If I got it for a reasonable price I'd send it to Ron smith have him poke it out to 33 and rerifle it with Pope profile rifling. Have him put his stamp on it so there was no confusion. 40 Rod


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16269 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #16 - Mar 5^th, 2020 at 11:11am	Print Post
	Myers wrote on Mar 5^th, 2020 at 8:22am: How do you know it has a ringed barrel? CptCurl wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2020 at 2:35pm: ". . . the bore is excellent besides a shallow dark ring approximately 1" from the muzzle . . ." There's the value. Curl Direct from the description: "Action is smooth, the bore is excellent besides a shallow dark ring approximately 1" from the muzzle" And I've seen many guns with a ring anywhere in the length of the barrel. They are not just in the chamber area. If something is lodged in the bore the next shot fired will likely create a ringed barrel wherever the obstruction was.

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MrTipUp Frequent Elocutionist Offline Quality is to a product what character is to a man Posts: 1314 Location: Indiana Joined: Feb 19^th, 2020	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #17 - Mar 5^th, 2020 at 12:58pm	Print Post
	I'd send it to Ron smith have him poke it out to 33 and rerifle it with Pope profile rifling. But you'd shoot the rifle first, wouldn't you, 40 Rod, in order to justify such sacrilege? Bill Lawrence


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1945 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #18 - Mar 5^th, 2020 at 2:35pm	Print Post
	I might add, that most rings are near the muzzle, as the shooter neglected to remove his false muzzle.

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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2238 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #19 - Mar 5^th, 2020 at 11:12pm	Print Post
	Would question if the false muzzle would cause a ring, but sure hard on the false muzzle Most rings caused by "short stroking" Projectile started down the muzzle, one to six inches, with a starter, not pushed down to the powder and fired. Will almost certainly ring a barrel. Happens pretty regular if not paying attention. Worth checking if any question. Some still shoot pretty well afterwards, some not. Chuck


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #20 - Mar 5^th, 2020 at 11:21pm	Print Post
	I doubt the false muzzle caused any ring. Mine never did

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1945 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #21 - Mar 6^th, 2020 at 12:12am	Print Post
	You both are correct. The false muzzle alone might not cause a ring, but as you state, a started bullet and or starter left in place is almost sure to cause a ring.

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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1945 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #22 - Mar 6^th, 2020 at 12:23am	Print Post
	And as Chuckster stated, the possibility of launching a very valuable false muzzle down range is most certainly not a good thing.

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Myers Senior Forum Member Online Posts: 383 Joined: Mar 5^th, 2013	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #23 - Mar 7^th, 2020 at 6:17pm	Print Post
	Hammered @ $16,000 plus 20%!!!


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rkba2nd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1945 Location: earth Joined: Feb 16^th, 2009	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #24 - Mar 7^th, 2020 at 6:27pm	Print Post
	Seems a rung bore didn't seem to hurt all that much? Of course, possibly the buyer?

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16269 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #25 - Mar 7^th, 2020 at 9:30pm	Print Post
	In today's deflated market, that would be a good price even with a perfect bore. I'm surprised!

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3912 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #26 - Mar 10^th, 2020 at 1:51pm	Print Post
	I just looked at all 19 pages of that auction. Interesting that all of the long range rifles went for less that their minimum estimated. There were sure lots of nice rifles if you just had the change!


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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1011 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #27 - Mar 10^th, 2020 at 6:04pm	Print Post
	Most old rifles I’ve seen with a ring about an inch or so down the muzzle was caused by a “mud-dabbed” or some other critter building his nest. Ledball


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bikes Participating Member Offline Posts: 23 Joined: Apr 29^th, 2020	Re: Stevens Pope rifle coming up at auction Reply #28 - May 12^th, 2020 at 5:37pm	Print Post
	I had a ring about 2 inches back from the muzzle on a Win 62a. It would generally shoot OK but sometimes throw out a real flyer. Cut off the bbl and redid the end.


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