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AndyZ Full Member Offline Posts: 227 Location: Madison, Ct. Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Casting pleasure Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 8:08pm	Print Post
	Casting bullets only fun at first, after 50 or so, more like work. Ran 200 + in 2 hours today. Fast for me. Recut Lyman single cavity on Lyman old style handles, so very light. Plus bullets drop freely and look very fine. So easy to work with. .325 210 gr from Werner Wolf mould. Wonder if he's still alive? Anyway now looking at my regular Jones mould and wondering if it could be lightened significantly. Anyone ever try this? Only one question remains "How will they shoot?"


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #1 - Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 10:39pm	Print Post
	Andy if you have enough material to remove it should not be a problem. Typicality the sprue plate screw and the stop are close to the outside edges. So you might need to relocate and modify the sprue plate and handle attachment screws. Might have to do the same with the handle attachment scews after you deepen the mortices.

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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1751 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #2 - Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 10:50pm	Print Post
	Yes, indeed for example those older lyman one piece very light molds are a dream to reduce fatigue during casting. BUT We must remember, tho, that a larger mass of the mold blocks makes for better heat retention/consistency of the temperature of the mold blocks, therefore helps for more consistent bullet weight. beltfed/arnie


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #3 - Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 9:25am	Print Post
	200 bullets in two hours is moving right along. When I cast the same and do it none stop it takes me about an hour and forty minutes give or take. When it comes to heat retention if you still have to wait for the sprue to freeze no matter what size the blocks are. And that is also the proper way to cast match grade bullets heat retention becomes a none issue. I have personally found the larger the blocks the more time it takes for the sprue to freeze. The longer it takes for the sprue to freeze the longer it takes to cast a batch of bullets.

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #4 - Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 1:28pm	Print Post
	AndyZ wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 8:08pm: Casting bullets only fun at first, after 50 or so, more like work. Ain't that the truth. I do 60 at a time as I'm almost crying from boredom by then. While I don't care for any of the other steps required to load, casting is by far the worst. Only another 1000 and I'll be thru for the season. Ugh..............

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #5 - Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	I typically cast 120 at a time as I want to end up with a 100 match grade bullets after doing the visual inspections. I also don't keep any that don't meet that standard for foulers or any other type of use.

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4570mike Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 386 Location: On the Peninsula Joined: Apr 11^th, 2013	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #6 - Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	The initial "warm-up" where the castings are dropping out poor I find tedious. Once everything gets hot and the slugs are coming out nice I have a difficult time saying "last one"! My limit is usually less than 200 in a session. Several molds are Accurate aluminum blocks and those don't fatigue the hands as much. Also, Accurate Molds are double cavity and that accelerates production. I do a visual inspection while casting then all are weighed. Anything out of range will go back in the pot. I at times saved odd ones for "practice" but had a wealth in PB I was not using so they were all recycled. No more; not good; not worth wasting good powder on. Mike.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16071 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #7 - Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 4:39pm	Print Post
	You can mill metal of molds and leave the sprue plate and stop alone. Just stop before reaching that edge and the plate pivot and stop can remain. Much simpler than totally modifying the points and the plate. You can also take metal off all 4 sides of the blocks if you don't go crazy. I personally have never found bullet casting fun, or enjoyable. I do it because it's cheaper, and I get better control over quality. But I've also never found single cavity molds to be heavy enough to bother trimming them down to save a small amount of weight.

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AndyZ Full Member Offline Posts: 227 Location: Madison, Ct. Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #8 - Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 7:35pm	Print Post
	Thanks everyone for the replies. Maybe find a little used mould and practice on that. If I do trim one will try to post pictures. Thanks


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mes Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 491 Location: Van Dyne, Wisconsin Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #9 - Feb 24^th, 2020 at 8:20am	Print Post
	I would send that mold to Richard Z along with instructions on which alloy to use.

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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1751 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #10 - Feb 24^th, 2020 at 9:55am	Print Post
	I managed a total of about 190 good bullets in under 2 hrs from my first run with 2 new DDEPP 38cal molds for 38-50RH from BACO that I had designed. I cast in tandem , alternating two molds. These BACO molds are spot on for the dimensions I specified and the run was indeed Casting Pleasure with excellent quality bullets. Molds released the bullets easily. Mostly just fell out upon opening the molds. Now, I only need a decent day to go out and shoot some of them beltfed/arnie


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Quarter_Bore Oldtimer Offline Posts: 817 Location: Joined: Dec 16^th, 2005	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #11 - Feb 24^th, 2020 at 10:17am	Print Post
	Old One piece Ideal molds are the best to cast with. Fast casting and not as tiring as having an anvil on a stick like modern molds. They produce bullets just as accurate and are fun to cast with.


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AndyZ Full Member Offline Posts: 227 Location: Madison, Ct. Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #12 - Feb 24^th, 2020 at 8:05pm	Print Post
	mes wrote "I would send that mold to Richard Z along with instructions on which alloy to use. " And so he will cast bullets for me???????????? Yeah, that should work. Gee thanks marty.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #13 - Feb 24^th, 2020 at 8:24pm	Print Post
	I would highly encourage everyone to learn how to make their your own bullet moulds and their own mould blocks. I have personally found that two alignment pins are by far not enough. Three as shown below is a bit better but four is what gets one allot closer to casting the best match grade bullets that one can and also being shown below. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) And four. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1187 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: Casting pleasure Reply #14 - Feb 24^th, 2020 at 10:01pm	Print Post
	John Very nice looking molds. Are your molds cherry cut or do you cut the cavities on a lathe?

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