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Remington Rolling Block made In the Netherlands...
Feb 1st, 2020 at 5:48pm
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  This RB was made by a Gunsmith by the name of C.L.Witte 
After his name is says Gunsmith of the King.......GEWEERNAKER VAN Z.M. DEN Koning

On the bottom of the barrel is 10.6 leading me to believe is was once a 10.66 or 10.75 x 57 or a 42 Russian chambering.

I am trying to restore this rifle to firing condition after is was decommisioned by the Swedish Government. It will be quite an undertaking to restore this old rifle but for some reason I feel it is a special gun since it is reported to have been owned by a famous Swedish writer. It was purchased in Sweden by a importer friend of mine and it still has the tape on the butt plate with the previous owners name on it.....Evert Taube

Can anyone tell me anything about this Dutch Gunmaker in the Netherlands??
  
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Evert Taube was a well known Swedish singer songwriter.

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Reply #2 - Feb 1st, 2020 at 6:45pm
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I'd enjoy seeing pictures of it! 
Is this a octagon barreled sporting rifle, or what configuration is it?

I think certain guns that speak to us should be saved, and gently brought back to as good as we can get them, without a full restoration. (if possible)
I've got a few with provenance to people who might not be famous all over, but have significant history that made me decide to not part them out, and instead bring them back as well as I could without destroying their history and looks.
  

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Reply #3 - Feb 1st, 2020 at 8:38pm
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I will try and get some pictures of the rifle uploaded to my computer and resized for posting.

The rifle needs a lot of work, not because it was not taken care of but because it was rendered a not fire arm by the Swedish government or some other organization. The problems are as follows........
The block has had its firing pin and firing pin indicator brazed shut. This of course has also locked the screw in place. Currently, Curt Hardcastle in NM has the block and will try to machine out the brazed in parts and replace them with parts that fit. 
Once that hurdle is crossed the barrel will have to be addressed. It has a rod/ plug that has been inserted in the barrel from the chamber end then molten metal has been poured down the muzzle to lock the rod in place. Not really sure what type of metal it is that was poured down the muzzle, maybe a hard lead. If the block issues are worked out  then I will start work on the barrel. Worst case is I have Bobby Hoyt reline the bore with a modern steal liner. Hopefully I can do a chamber cast to verify the chambering.
  
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I have a Rolling Block I bought at the Reno gun show to use the action and parts. It's an octagon top #1 sporting rifle, but in rare .22 rimfire. I figured it was so Bubba'd I'd keep it as a .22 rimfire, but toss the barrel, and wood, and put new barrel and wood on it.
It had the front dovetail cut by hand with a dull file and they made it 3/4" wide! Not sure why, but then they cut another correct 3/8" dovetail in the bottom of the first 3/4" dovetail! And since one buggered wasn't enough, they messed up the rear dovetail also, and just left it blank.
Then I guess they wanted a tang sight, but didn't know what spacing to do. So they drilled and tapped 5 holes in the top tang, and made a mess of that.
And the topper was the stocks. They used a file to cut large checkering in the buttplate, but somehow actually got it even spaced. Problem was the spacing is about 1/4", and not in a diamond pattern like checkering is. Instead in a tic tac toe pattern straight across vertically and horizontally! The stocks also got amateur checkering, and then had big chips missing from the forearm and buttstock.
It looked pretty bad, but surprisingly had a very nice bore! I began taking it apart and found a name stamped under the forearm on the bottom barrel flat. It read, "E.C. Hackett" and I thought the name was familiar? The person I bought it from happened to be from Oregon also, but had mostly military guns, and wanted this one gone badly. I tried a Google search of the name and found EC Hackett was an Oregon Pioneer born about 10 miles away in 1852 to early settlers. He went on to become one of the first deputies in Oregon City, which was the state capitol back then. Later he became mayor of Oregon City, and finally County Recorder until he died in his 80's.
So I went from salvage mode, to saving mode. I repaired all the barrel dovetails with tight fitting plugs, and then milled in new proper dovetails. I matched the rust blue, and faded it in to blend. I filled all except two of the tang sight holes, and blended them in also. Then installed a tang sight to cover the repaired holes. I fixed all the broken wood, and touched up the checkering. I left the crude checkering on the buttplate as I saw no good way to correct it. 
It's a very good shooter, and it looks 100% better than it did. But it doesn't look restored, it looks like a survivor. I also got hundreds of pages of documentation on EC Hackett from the Oregon City Historical Society that I keep with his gun.
  

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Reply #5 - Feb 2nd, 2020 at 8:05am
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Great story Vall!!
History like that is part of what makes this such a great hobby.
Or should I say obsession, or addiction? Wink
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Rebel wrote on Feb 2nd, 2020 at 8:05am:
Great story Vall!!
History like that is part of what makes this such a great hobby.
Or should I say obsession, or addiction? Wink
Aaron


Remember it's only an addiction if you are trying to quit!  for this- I'm not a quitter!
And the stupid bowl... I've been doing my part since the kneeling incidents to help that organization go bankrupt but it's not working.
looks like the crosshatch in the gravel driveway needs re-done today anyway -too busy to watch Grin
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I'm with you Greg on how little I care about NFL football since the kneeling began. I've done my part to boycott it too, and really wasn't hard to do so!
  

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marlinguy wrote on Feb 2nd, 2020 at 10:19am:
I'm with you Greg on how little I care about NFL football since the kneeling began. I've done my part to boycott it too, and really wasn't hard to do so!


Glad to hear I'm not the only one!

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I haven't watched the game since it all started and I used to be a big fan of the game. Now it's Nascar who is jumping into the political AR firearms game and I had to give up watching it as well.
  

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When I was running BP matches at TR&R, one of my one day 200 yard matches was on Super Bowl Sunday.  My ride called it the "Stupid Sunday Match"    Grin Cheesy
  

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Back when I was shooting traveling winter league Trap. One of our out of town matches was always on SuperBowl day. So I missed out on watching it for those four years and when football was still a very Patriotic to America sport. Hard to tell who is in control of the game now Kapernick or AOC it surely isn't a Patriotic sport anymore.
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I guess you all missed the show yesterday. It was far more patriotic than you imagine. The players were sometimes seen singing along with the anthem. Coaches too. Plus, I got to see JLo stut her georgeous legs and shake her delightful fanny at halftime. 
And, it was one helluva good football game too. Sorry your tunnel vision cause you to miss so much. Carry on.
  
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I probably should have conceded and watched part of it, the raking job I did on the gravel is under 6" of snow today - I added salt to the steel shavings I poured on the gravel so this will rust up nice.  Makes the driveway go "clang" how many others can say that?  Wink  I did do some stock work and I did go spend some time at the range with friends.  Who won?
  

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KC came from behind (again) in an exiting finish.
  
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