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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2033 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: presented to Reply #15 - Oct 30^th, 2019 at 7:23pm	Print Post
	This is the article itself, however there are a number of typos in it;


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: presented to Reply #16 - Oct 30^th, 2019 at 7:25pm	Print Post
	Thanks guys, I'll search those. Wish they digitized all newspapers from old days.

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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2033 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: presented to Reply #17 - Oct 30^th, 2019 at 7:34pm	Print Post
	This is a Stevens #51 22 Short that was said to have belonged to Michael Dorrler, from Julia Auctions;


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terry buffum Full Member Offline Posts: 144 Location: Bend, Oregon Joined: Feb 11^th, 2007	Re: presented to Reply #18 - Oct 31^st, 2019 at 4:18pm	Print Post
	The OP's pics show a very rough turned barrel. I had an H M Pope .22 Ballard with the same "finish". It had the standard Pope marking and codes, so he must have done the "matting". It would be interesting to know how or if this rifle's barrel was marked.

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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: presented to Reply #19 - Nov 6^th, 2019 at 9:50am	Print Post
	Michael was a top competitor and always in the hunt at big matches. I belive that that rifle was given as a price the year before Ittle won his famous prize rifle. Stevens was permuting their "new" 44 1/2 action and this was a way to get them in the hands of top shooters. 40 Rod


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Linecutter Participating Member Offline Posts: 35 Location: Ruin, VA Joined: Nov 28^th, 2007	Re: presented to Reply #20 - Nov 7^th, 2019 at 2:06pm	Print Post
	Shame they spelled his name wrong. Rifle says “Dorrler” not “Dorrier”. Beautiful job otherwise.


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2223 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: presented to Reply #21 - Nov 7^th, 2019 at 3:14pm	Print Post
	Only an engraver would notice the misspelling, but done it stamping and crude engraving. Real easy to make a mistake. Hard to erase. Chuck


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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: presented to Reply #22 - Nov 7^th, 2019 at 6:04pm	Print Post
	Yes, some stamps were used; but in my limited-experience, the design and execution of the Dorrier rifle's engraving is very good for Stevens' work. After all, it's not like they routinely hired the Ulrich boys. Also, I'd bet this isn't the first time an "l" and an "i" were confused, especially if interpreted from imprecise handwriting. Do you think Mr. Dorrier was so incensed that he refused the rifle? Bill Lawrence


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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1183 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: presented to Reply #23 - Nov 7^th, 2019 at 8:31pm	Print Post
	Over several years while researching original sources for my book The Golden Age of the American Schuetzenfest I came across numerous references, including a couple of photos of Michael Dorrler. He was known nationally as an excellent shooter and tough competitor. Never did I encounter reference to him spelled Dorrier. Perhaps my sample size was too small or both were names of famous shooters?

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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: presented to Reply #24 - Nov 7^th, 2019 at 10:08pm	Print Post
	Yikes! Thanks to Randy, another bit of esoteric research coming up. I'm on it! Bill Lawrence


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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: presented to Reply #25 - Nov 7^th, 2019 at 10:16pm	Print Post
	That didn't take long. Both the 1903 Los Angeles Herald article and the write-up for the Julia ca6talog above spell the name DorrLer. Pass the crow, somebody. Bill Lawrence


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TRowe Full Member Offline Posts: 173 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2017	Re: presented to Reply #26 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 10:45am	Print Post
	The rifle has a replaced barrel. It obviously came with a Stevens or Stevens Pope barrel but it now has a Jersey City Pope barrel. It has been blued but it was just turned and never polished when Pope fitted it to this action.


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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: presented to Reply #27 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 12:02pm	Print Post
	So the present barrel is like the (in)famous # 150 that was on Pope's own high-wall. We can only hope it shoots as well. Bill Lawrence


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