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Reply #15 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:12am
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Decades ago I found an old seat cushion at the dump, ripped it open and took about a half-shopping bag full of Kapok home.  I still use that on the rare occasions I need to keep a relatively small smokeless charge next to the primer in a large case.

It’s orange, fibrous stuff that disappears in a flame.  No melting; just gone.  A tiny amount, teased out, is enough to grip the sides of the shell and hold the powder down.  I push it down against the powder with the eraser end of a pencil.  It can be shaken loose, of course, but normal handling is OK.

I notice the difference in accuracy in freakishly long cases like the .40-3-1/4” Sharps Straight, with bulkier powders that burn incompletely when the pressure drops, like 4759 and 5744.  Otherwise, it’s an extra loading step that I’d rather avoid.

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Reply #16 - Aug 6th, 2019 at 11:09am
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Best material I found over the years was 1/16 cork. What's odd 3/32 cork and allot less expensive would open up the groups substantially. Wads were inserted into the seater and seated with the bullet and shooting a 32-40. I believe it provided two benefits protecting the base of the bullet and providing a positive gas seal. Won allot of honors over the years using that process and the wad punch one of Fred Cornell's.
  

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Reply #17 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:56am
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I shoot blackpowder cartridge, Always with wad over powder
have a 38-55 using a thin walter card wad and a 45-90 using a .060 low density polyethylene wad over the powder. shoot bought accurate
  
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Reply #18 - Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:13am
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For BP cartridges I use fiber filler wads like you would use in a shotgun but cut to fit in a 40 or 50 cal case. They are also cut to specific heights to match the load with no space left in the case. Accuracy has been good but experimenting continues. With smokeless, I use either kapok or polyester filler and weigh the amount out before putting it in over the powder. I don't leave any open space but don't pack it tight either. In accuracy trials, polyester seems to be showing an edge over kapok. That's just my experience. Thanks, ratseye
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:58am
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In Charlie's expariments he Proved that the worst stuff that you can use is Dacron. it turns into a sticky goopy plug that asserbates ringing.

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Reply #20 - Aug 9th, 2019 at 1:53pm
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Just goes to show the widely differing results you get with different cartridge/powder/bullet combinations. The fiber fill I use comes out un-burned in this instance and as I said testing continues. Thanks, ratseye
  
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Reply #21 - Aug 9th, 2019 at 11:53pm
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Thanks 40 rod.
I think I’m seeing my little Dacron wads down in the grass unburnt.
But then I also get some black mummies and bits in cases also at times.

I will see if I can find some kapok.
I have tried cotton balls teased out but didn’t like the way it compressed into a hard disk easily.
And anything that may smoulder is a big no thanks to me as setting the country ablaze is not what I would be liked to remembered by..

The smoke on extracting the case is grey white maybe a touch of green.
Could it nitroglycerin in the powder?
I have some SK std plus tin of 22lr that I find is also plastic like smell to it also.

Thnx I’m enjoying this thread.

I could just maybe put a thing paper wad on case mouth and try that to see if it would work also.
  
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