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Jul 30th, 2019 at 6:32pm
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shooting low wall Winchester with set trigger Fecker scope   
great set up using LIL gun powder 6 grains  total 1.89 want hold pattern not using any filler  help Thanks Hornet
  
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Re: 25-20ss
Reply #1 - Jul 30th, 2019 at 11:03pm
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Sure sounds like a great rig. Got lots going for it. I have a Stevens 44 in that caliber  and I am playing with IMR 4227 and like it. Haven't tried.  Lilgun so no help for you with that. I will be interested to see what posters are using..
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Reply #2 - Jul 31st, 2019 at 6:38am
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Reply #3 - Jul 31st, 2019 at 12:20pm
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Hornet, are you saying it's not grouping well? I use 6.8 grains of H108 with Lyman 257420 and never any filler with any load in the 25-20 SS.
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 31st, 2019 at 10:30pm
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My best is breech seating 105 gr. Hoch and 120 gr. NOE using Accurate 4100 now called Enforcer I believe.
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 1st, 2019 at 12:26am
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MT, what is your barrel's twist? The twist in older barrels was never intended for bullets that heavy.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 1st, 2019 at 3:32am
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It is 1-12" and a Badger barrel put on a Stevens 44 1/2 that was orig. a .25 rf.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 1st, 2019 at 8:58am
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In my experience, Lil'Gun likes higher pressures than the .25-20 normally runs at when shooting cast bullets.  Just right for full power loads in the Hornet and .22 Lovell, though.
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 1st, 2019 at 7:43pm
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Hornet:    Read your post with interest.  I have a kissing cousin to your rifle.  Same configuration, trigger. Using a Lyman targetspot 10X.  Serial # is 9571x.  What is yours numbered?  My bore is bright but as expected has pitts beyond the chamber a few inches in corners of grooves. Outside is very faded CC, worn bbl blue, ect.  Just a used early rifle, unmessed with.   

Have not had it to the range but have cases, ect and it will get shot (when is the question). Will start with 4227 Good luck.   andy
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 2nd, 2019 at 9:39am
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thanks  Im shooting lead bullet 85 grains not much help so far i'm  waiting ???????? HORNET
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 2nd, 2019 at 11:33am
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Reply #11 - Aug 2nd, 2019 at 11:52am
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I think you have been given some help, like, ditch the Lil Gun. Try 2400 which works well in the 25-20 SS. In lieu of the H108 try AA9 or 300MP or the 4100 one. What diameter is your bullet and where are you seating it? You're not crimping it, are you? Do you work up your loads in .3 grain increments?
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 2nd, 2019 at 12:39pm
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Best to just go out and try different powders, primers and alloys it's not typical for two rifles to like the same.
  

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Re: 25-20ss
Reply #13 - Aug 2nd, 2019 at 1:37pm
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hornet, our rifles could be twins !!! Mine has a perfect original bore. I have found that with a 1 in 12 twist, mine likes:
68 gr. Winchester bullet (an old gas check mold with the gas check portion milled off), Lyman 257420 bullet with a gas check, and the RCBS 85 gr Cowboy bullet. No crimp on any of the loads tested. All bullets sized .258 from 1 in 20 lead. I have used the following and gotten outstanding accuracy at 50 yards.

68 gr Winch. Bullet
7.5 gr. 4227 or 7.5gr 2400
CCI CB4 match primer
SPG lube
Neck tension at .0015


Lyman 257420 GC 
7.5 gr 2400
Federal 205M
Neck tension .0015


RCBS 85 gr Cowboy
7.0 gr. 2400
CCI CB4 primer
Neck tension .0015

My rifle likes the lighter bullets better than the 85 gr., and prefers a dirty bore (three Foulers). Mine has a number 1 barrel on it, (so is too light for Schuetzen work) and will group into a half inch at 50 yards benched. I use mine for squirrel hunting, so I have never tried for accuracy farther than that. 
  JLouis has it right, no two rifles will like the same load equally.
Good Luck,
Tom
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Re: 25-20ss
Reply #14 - Aug 3rd, 2019 at 8:14am
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THANKS TO ALL  CHANGING 2400 POWER GOT ME ON Smiley PAPER
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