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cdnrokon Full Member Offline Posts: 138 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba Canada Joined: Feb 27^th, 2016	40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Jul 8^th, 2019 at 12:52pm	Print Post
	I have a roller needing a barrel and i have a 40 cal GM .408 on the way ,I do not think that I will get back into silhouette shooting again but would love to find something cheap to reload what are your thoughts on both calibers.


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art_ruggiero Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1222 Location: CT Joined: Dec 14^th, 2008	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #1 - Jul 8^th, 2019 at 3:43pm	Print Post
	i like my 40/50 ss it shoots very good. it has shoot sil. for several other people with good results, but if you intend to shoot sil. i might opt for the 40/60 art


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Deadeye Bly Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1146 Location: Stephens City Joined: Feb 25^th, 2011	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #2 - Jul 8^th, 2019 at 8:45pm	Print Post
	There is not much difference in costs to shoot these rifles. You can only save a few bucks by shooting less powder, all else costs about the same. I'm a 40-50 fan. Got my son shooting one about 15 years ago. It works for silhouette and will do OK at mid-range. He shot 416 grain bullets at rams but I spoke with a fellow 2 weeks ago with one and he shoots the Saeco 640 370 grain bullet across the board. He claimed that he had never rung a ram with the bullet. It's a fun little cartridge, very efficient, accurate and historical. One other point - If it proves not powerful enough for you just ream it out to the 40-60 Maynard, no other changes required.


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #3 - Jul 8^th, 2019 at 10:01pm	Print Post
	Not only are John Bly's son's junior records held with the 40-50SS, have been told the long-run on turkeys is also with a 40-50.

	Glenn - Stevens 044 1/2, Bartlein SS 5R barrel in 22LR
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18068 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #4 - Jul 9^th, 2019 at 11:11am	Print Post
	The .40-50SS is my choice, especially for smokeless powder loads. It's also made from really cheap .303 British, or .30-40 Krag brass, so that's a big plus too. I have two Rollers in this caliber. One an original Sporting Rifle, and another I recently built up from parts. One of my favorite .40 calibers!

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Reverend Al Oldtimer Offline Posts: 568 Location: Victoria BC Canada Joined: Jun 25^th, 2016	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #5 - Jul 9^th, 2019 at 12:45pm	Print Post
	I agree on the .40-50SS ... dead easy to form from easily sourced .303 Brit cases and mild to shoot. I need to get out and shoot some more test loads in mine ... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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cdnrokon Full Member Offline Posts: 138 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba Canada Joined: Feb 27^th, 2016	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #6 - Jul 10^th, 2019 at 11:20pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Jul 9^th, 2019 at 11:11am: The .40-50SS is my choice, especially for smokeless powder loads. It's also made from really cheap .303 British, or .30-40 Krag brass, so that's a big plus too. I have two Rollers in this caliber. One an original Sporting Rifle, and another I recently built up from parts. One of my favorite .40 calibers! What length of barrel on your guns?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18068 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #7 - Jul 11^th, 2019 at 11:36am	Print Post
	My original Roller is a 30" half octagon. The one I recently built up has a new 34" Green Mountain full octagon 3.5 weight on it. I haven't done much workup on the new one yet, but hoping the long barrel is a good choice. I did it to mimic the looks of a Creedmoor, but wanted to use the .40-50SS because I think it's such a neat caliber.

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cdnrokon Full Member Offline Posts: 138 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba Canada Joined: Feb 27^th, 2016	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #8 - Aug 28^th, 2019 at 5:19pm	Print Post
	Thanks everyone for the input on the 40/50ss I am going with this caliber. Now to get all the pcs required to build loads. Dies surprising were easy to find, brass 303 no problem , wads on the way, now just to pick bullet style and weight . searching on forums trying to find smokeless load data using AA5744 or AA2495 sould be a fun one to shoot.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18068 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #9 - Aug 28^th, 2019 at 5:58pm	Print Post
	cdnrokon wrote on Aug 28^th, 2019 at 5:19pm: Thanks everyone for the input on the 40/50ss I am going with this caliber. Now to get all the pcs required to build loads. Dies surprising were easy to find, brass 303 no problem , wads on the way, now just to pick bullet style and weight . searching on forums trying to find smokeless load data using AA5744 or AA2495 should be a fun one to shoot. Just use .38-55 data. It will work fine. Of course most data will be for 255 gr. bullets, and the .40-50SS works best with a 300 or 350 gr. So reduce the charges, or use lower level charges for the lighter bullet and it will be fine. And it is a very enjoyable round to shoot!

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jhm Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2044 Location: georgia Joined: Sep 4^th, 2011	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #10 - Aug 28^th, 2019 at 8:33pm	Print Post
	I have a 40-50 BN that is also fun and can be made from 45-70 brass. Accuracy is not what I think it could be but that is my fault. Still fun to shoot. Matter of fact I need to work some more work with it.........


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Gard72977 Full Member Offline Posts: 201 Location: Tupelo MS Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #11 - Sep 2^nd, 2019 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	Whos reamer works best? The dies I find Are for .408 is that what everybody's using. I'm very interested in this car ridge.


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RemFan Participating Member Offline Posts: 25 Joined: Jan 27^th, 2019	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #12 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 8:49am	Print Post
	Are the rims the correct thickness on the 303 and the 30-40 brass to headspace correctly in the 40-50 SS chamber? i have just started to research this cartridge. Glad i found this post.


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cdnrokon Full Member Offline Posts: 138 Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba Canada Joined: Feb 27^th, 2016	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #13 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	The reamer that he is using is for a 40/60 Maynard with a stop collar on it for 40/50 sharps straight. He then is going to cut the rim to fit the 303 British .60 rim thickness RemFan wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 8:49am: Are the rims the correct thickness on the 303 and the 30-40 brass to headspace correctly in the 40-50 SS chamber? i have just started to research this cartridge. Glad i found this post.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18068 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 40/50 sharps straight or 40/60 maynard Reply #14 - Sep 7^th, 2019 at 7:19pm	Print Post
	RemFan wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 8:49am: Are the rims the correct thickness on the 303 and the 30-40 brass to headspace correctly in the 40-50 SS chamber? i have just started to research this cartridge. Glad i found this post. Yes, the rims work fine for .303 or .30-40 for both my original Rolling Block, and my recently completed version. Both in .40-50SS.

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