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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16115 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Old Roller in a new caliber May 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm	Print Post
	I saw this old #1 Rolling Block Sporter at last month's collector gun show here, but passed on it since I was saving my pennies for Denver. But yesterday it returned for sale again, and I couldn't pass this time. Price was crazy cheap, and although it was a .38 Long CF, it has been lined to .357" groove and chambered in .38 Special now! The twist rate is 1:16" and I will try to see how far it can stretch it's legs with the right weight bullet and better sights. I have over 1,000 empty brass and dies, plus some 158 gr. RN bullets. But I'll buy another 180 gr. to test, and get a mold if it likes the heavier .38 bullets better. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Not a high finish gun, but has been well cared for and no dings, dents, or rust anywhere. Stocks are original, and in good shape too.

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3570 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #1 - May 27^th, 2019 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	Neat. That is exactly the sort of thing I'd like to find one of these days.


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DWT1885 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 396 Location: New Jersey Joined: Nov 25^th, 2010	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #2 - May 27^th, 2019 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	Yes, a neat rifle. Should be a very fun gun to shoot. Dale.

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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2232 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #3 - May 27^th, 2019 at 10:09pm	Print Post
	Like that rifle. It has the look and feel of a rifle to take to the woods. Slender, easy to carry, not to heavy. Seems a crime to shoot it at the range when it should be in the woods or hills. Chuck


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freebird Full Member Offline Posts: 119 Location: South West France Joined: Sep 12^th, 2014	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #4 - May 28^th, 2019 at 6:55am	Print Post
	Definitly the kind of gun I'd love to stumble upon... but if the military RB have crossed the ocean in great number (not to mention beeb manufactured over here), the civilian ones are quite scarce... Nice toy


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Joe Do... Oldtimer ASSRA Board Member ASSRA Journal Editor Offline Posts: 586 Location: 'burbs of Chicago Joined: May 19^th, 2012	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #5 - May 28^th, 2019 at 8:03am	Print Post
	That is a very nice surviving rifle. I think that re-purposing a rifle like that into a more useful caliber is a great caliber. Very nice!


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16115 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #6 - May 28^th, 2019 at 10:15am	Print Post
	The "civilian" or Sporting Rifles are my only interest in Rolling Block rifles. I do occasionally buy a military rifle, but only to use as a donor action to build into a Sporting type rifle. This one is a little lighter than some, but still not demure, as it weighs 10 lbs. So although it's not as heavy as most of my other Rolling Blocks, it's certainly not a lightweight format. But the weight should make the .38 Special feel like a .22RF in recoil.

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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1573 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #7 - May 30^th, 2019 at 10:16pm	Print Post
	You beat me to it by about 5 minutes. it was Good to see you val, it's been a lot of years since I was at that show. what a wonderful group of guys. You look the same ...but I seem to have lost quite a bit more hair.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16115 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #8 - May 30^th, 2019 at 11:32pm	Print Post
	Cbashooter wrote on May 30^th, 2019 at 10:16pm: You beat me to it by about 5 minutes. it was Good to see you val, it's been a lot of years since I was at that show. what a wonderful group of guys. You look the same ...but I seem to have lost quite a bit more hair. Was great to see you again George! Glad I beat you to it! I passed on it last month, and figured I better not make that mistake twice!

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craigd Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2048 Location: midwest Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2009	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #9 - May 31^st, 2019 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	Price was crazy cheap, my famous excuse. Thanks for the pictures, it looks to be in nice shape, I’d hover around it trying not to look over interested. There’re two rifles that I’ve seen recently that I’ll probably go home with, ‘if’ they come up again for sale. I already passed up the crazy cheap part once.


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Quarter_Bore Oldtimer Offline Posts: 817 Location: Joined: Dec 16^th, 2005	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #10 - May 31^st, 2019 at 4:32pm	Print Post
	Nice rifle Vall. I had a .35-40 that had 16 inch twist and I had no trouble shooting 265 grain bullets so 190 or even 200 grainers should be no problem as far as the twist is concerned. I don't know about the pressures in a small case.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7274 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #11 - Jun 4^th, 2019 at 8:01pm	Print Post
	My LW in 357 Max, has a .357 groove, 20 twist barrel and I shoot 208 gr 35875 bullets in it BSed. There are 200 gr 38 Spec loads, in Lyman hand books. I think you could get 1000 fps out of it. Frank

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coljimmy Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 283 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2012	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #12 - Jun 4^th, 2019 at 9:58pm	Print Post
	On a similar vein, I picked up a Marlin Ballard #2 in 38 Long years ago with a sewer pipe bore. Had it relined to 38 Special, shot it some, and sold it to a friend who had cancer and didn't have time to reload. He enjoyed it for about 18 months. James


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coljimmy Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 283 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2012	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #13 - Jun 4^th, 2019 at 9:59pm	Print Post
	On a similar vein, I picked up a Marlin Ballard #2 in 38 Long years ago with a sewer pipe bore. Had it relined to 38 Special, shot it some, and sold it to a friend who had cancer and didn't have time to reload. He enjoyed it for about 18 months. James


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16115 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #14 - Jun 5^th, 2019 at 9:42am	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Jun 4^th, 2019 at 8:01pm: There are 200 gr 38 Spec loads, in Lyman hand books. I think you could get 1000 fps out of it. Frank If I can get a 200 gr. bullet to 1,000 fps it will do everything I want to do with this Roller! That's plenty of velocity and bullet weight to get me out a long distance. I need to get some loads worked up before mid July when we have our annual longrange shoot.

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Just Jim Full Member Offline Posts: 186 Joined: May 11^th, 2019	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #15 - Jul 5^th, 2019 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	Well, that looks like fun! Relatively quiet, cheap to shoot - what's not to like? I like working on things, but it's a nice bonus to find one with the work all done! Enjoy...


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3877 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Old Roller in a new caliber Reply #16 - Jul 5^th, 2019 at 7:18pm	Print Post
	Vall, since this has come up again, it's almost mid July. Did you get some loads worked up?


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